Mister Lee is a Seoul-based old-school tattooist and graffiti artist. He runs a tattoo shop called “Smile Now,” using his unique sense of style and solid skills to help promote and expand old-school tattoo culture in Korea. In this interview, we explore how he integrated his experiences and sensibilities from the graffiti scene into tattooing, as well as the philosophy that drives him to keep experimenting while maintaining his commitment to the old-school style. Through this conversation, we get a glimpse of his candid stories and deep passion for old-school tattoos.
ใในใฟใผ・ใชใผ(Mister Lee)ใฏ、ใฝใฆใซใๆ ็นใซๆดปๅใใใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฎใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใๅ ผใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใขใผใใฃในใใงใ。「ในใใคใซ·ใใฆ(Smile Now)」ใจใใใฟใใฅใผใทใงใใใ้ๅถใ、็ฌๅต็ใชๆๆงใจ็ขบใใชๆ่กใใใจใซ、้ๅฝใงใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผๆๅใๅบใใๅฝนๅฒใๆใใใฆใใพใ。 ใใคใฆใฎใฐใฉใใฃใใฃ・ใทใผใณ(Scene)ใงๅนใฃใ็ต้จใๆๆงใ、ใฉใฎใใใซใฟใใฅใผใซ่ฝใจใ่พผใใงใใใฎใ。ใใใฆใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซในใฟใคใซใ่ฒซใใชใใใ、ๆฐใใชๆๆฆใ็ถใใๅฝผ็ฌ่ชใฎๅฒๅญฆใจใฏไฝใชใฎใงใใใใ。ใคใณใฟใใฅใผใ้ใใฆ、ใในใฟใผ·ใชใผใฎ็็ดใชในใใผใชใผใจ、ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใซๅฏพใใๆทฑใๆๆ ใ็ดๆฅไผบใใใจใใงใใพใ。
๋ฏธ์คํฐ ๋ฆฌ(Mister Lee)๋ ์์ธ์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ํ๋ํ๋ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ์ด์คํธ์ด์ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ํฐ์คํธ์ ๋๋ค. ‘์ค๋ง์ผ ๋์ฐ(Smile Now)’๋ผ๋ ํํฌ์ต์ ์ด์ ์ค์ธ ๊ทธ๋, ๋ ์ฐฝ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ ํํํ ์ค๋ ฅ์ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ํ๊ตญ์์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ ๋ฌธํ๋ฅผ ์๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ฐ์ํค๋๋ฐ ์ญํ ์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ฌ(Scene)์์ ์์ ๊ฒฝํ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์ฑ์ ํํฌ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ น์๋์ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ์คํ์ผ์ ๊ณ ์งํ๋ฉด์๋ ์๋ก์ด ์๋๋ฅผ ์ด์ด๊ฐ๋ ๊ทธ๋ง์ ์ฒ ํ์ ๋ฌด์์ธ์ง ์ธํฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํตํด, ์ง์ํ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ์ ๋ํ ๊น์ ์ ์ ์ ์ง์ ๋ค์ด๋ณผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค.
Please introduce yourself briefly. As a tattoo artist, what philosophy do you aim for? Also, could you tell us the meaning behind your name?
่ชๅทฑ็ดนไปใ็ฐกๅใซใ้กใใงใใพใใ? ใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใจใใฆ็ฎๆใใฆใใ็ๅฟตใฏไฝใงใใใใ? ใพใ、ใๅๅใฎ็ฑๆฅใๆใใฆใใใ ใใพใใ?
๋ณธ์ธ ์๊ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋จํ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค. ํํฌ์ด์คํธ๋ก์ ์งํฅํ๋ ์ฒ ํ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์์ธ๊ฐ์? ์ด๋ฆ์ ๋ป๋..
A
I work under the name ‘Mister Lee’ and specialize in old-school tattoos, running a shop called ‘Smile Now.’ I want to spread the appeal of old-school tattoos in Seoul and all across Korea, and to showcase the authentic old-school style. My artist name comes from my real family name; it doesn’t hold any special meaning.
็งใฏ ‘Mister Lee’ ใจใใๅๅใงใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฎใฟใใฅใผใไธปใซ่กใฃใฆใใ、‘Smile Now’ ใจใใใฟใใฅใผใทใงใใใ้ๅถใใฆใใพใ。ใฝใฆใซใใฏใใ、้ๅฝใงใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใฎ้ญ
ๅใๅบใ、็ใฎใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซในใฟใคใซใ่ฆใใใใจๆใฃใฆใใพใ。ๆดปๅๅใฏๆฌๅใฎๅงใๅใฃใใใฎใง、็นใซ็นๅฅใชๆๅณใฏใใใพใใ。
์ ๋ ‘๋ฏธ์คํฐ ๋ฆฌ(Mister Lee)’๋ผ๋ ์ด๋ฆ์ผ๋ก ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ ์์
์ ํ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ‘์ค๋ง์ผ ๋์ฐ(Smile Now)’๋ผ๋ ํํฌ์ต์ ์ด์ ์ค์
๋๋ค. ์์ธ์ ๋น๋กฏํด ํ๊ตญ์์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ ๋๋ก ๋ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ์คํ์ผ์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ ์ถ์ด์. ํ๋๋ช
์ ์ ๋ณธ๋ช
์์ ์ฑ์ ๋ฐ์๊ณ , ํน๋ณํ ์๋ฏธ๊ฐ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ์๋์์.
Q
The tattoo shop you run is called ‘Smile Now.’ What does that name mean?
้ๅถใใใฆใใใฟใใฅใผใทใงใใ ‘Smile Now’ ใซใฏใฉใฎใใใชๆๅณใ่พผใใใใฆใใใฎใงใใใใ?
์ด์ํ์๋ ํํฌ์ต ์ด๋ฆ์ด ‘Smile Now’์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋ค ์๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋ด๊ณ ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค.
A
‘Smile Now’ comes from the phrase ‘Smile Now, Cry Later,’ which is frequently seen in old-school tattoos. It’s also a common motif in Mexican tattoos. I chose the part ‘Smile Now’ because I wanted a positive vibe for the shop name.
‘Smile Now’ ใฏใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใงใใไฝฟใใใ “Smile Now, Cry Later” ใจใใใใฌใผใบใซ็ฑๆฅใใพใ。ใกใญใทใซใณใฟใใฅใผใงใใใ่ฆใใใใขใใผใใงใใ、ใใฎไธญใงใๅๅใใชใคใกใผใธใๆใค ‘Smile Now’ ใฎ้จๅใใทใงใใๅใซใใใใฃใใใงใ。
‘์ค๋ง์ผ ๋์ฐ(Smile Now)’๋ผ๋ ํํ์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ์์ ์์ฃผ ์ฐ์ด๋ “Smile Now, Cry Later”๋ผ๋ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์์ ๋ฐ์จ ๊ฑฐ์์. ๋ฉ์์นธ ํํฌ๋ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ์์ ์์ฃผ ๋ฑ์ฅํ๋ ๋ชจํฐ๋ธ ์ค ํ๋์ด๊ธฐ๋ ํ์ฃ . ์ ๋ ๊ทธ์ค ๊ธ์ ์ ์ธ ๋๋์ ์ฃผ๋ ‘Smile Now’ ๋ถ๋ถ๋ง ์ฌ์ฉํ๊ณ ์ถ์ด์ ์ต ์ด๋ฆ์ผ๋ก ์ ํ์ต๋๋ค.
Q
Among the many styles of tattoos, why did you focus on old-school tattoos? Also, how did you start tattooing and how did you initially learn?
ๆฐใใใฟใใฅใผในใฟใคใซใฎไธญใง、ใชใใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใซ้ไธญใใใใใซใชใฃใใฎใงใใใใ? ใฟใใฅใผใๅงใใใใฃใใใจ、ๅๆใฎ้ ใฏใฉใฎใใใซไฝๆฅญใๅญฆใฐใใใฎใใๆใใฆใใ ใใ。
์ฌ๋ฌ ํํฌ ์คํ์ผ ์ค ์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์ค์ ์ผ๋ก ์์
ํ๊ฒ ๋์๋์?
ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์์ํ์๊ฒ ๋ ๊ณ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๊ธฐ์๋ ์ด๋ค ์์ผ๋ก ์์
์ ๋ฐฐ์ ๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค.
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Around 2010, I happened to see American tattoo artists’ work and encountered old-school tattoos for the first time. It was very captivating. At the time, I was deeply involved in graffiti and was also familiar with American culture, so a friend and I bought a tattoo machine and started doing old-school tattoos on each other. Initially, our main goal wasn’t to tattoo other people but to have a lot of old-school tattoos on our own bodies. That naturally led to me tattooing professionally.
2010ๅนด้ 、ใขใกใชใซใใๆฅใใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใฎไฝๅใๅถ็ถ็ฎใซใใฆ、ๅใใฆใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใซๅบไผใฃใใฎใงใใ、ๆฌๅฝใซ้ญ
ๅ็ใงใใ。ๅฝๆใฏใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใใใฃใฆใใฆ、ใขใกใชใซๆๅใซใๆ
ฃใ่ฆชใใใงใใใฎใง、ๅไบบใจไธ็ทใซใใทใณใ่ฒทใฃใฆใไบใใซใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใๅ
ฅใๅงใใใใงใ。ๆๅใใไปใฎไบบใซๆฝ่กใใใใจใใใใ、ใพใใฏ่ชๅใใกใใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใใใใใๅ
ฅใใใใฃใใจใใๆใใฎๆนใๅผทใใฃใใใงใใ。ใใใใฆใใใใกใซ่ช็ถใซใฟใใฅใผใๆฌๆ ผ็ใซใใใใใซใชใใพใใ。
2010๋
์ฏค ์ฐ์ฐํ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์์ ์จ ํํฌ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค์ ๋ณด๊ณ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ์ด๋ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์ฒ์ ์ ํ๊ฒ ๋์ ๋ ๊ต์ฅํ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋๊ผ์ด์. ํ์ฐฝ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ฅผ ํ๊ณ ์์๊ณ , ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ์๋ ์ต์ํ๋ ํฐ๋ผ ์น๊ตฌ์ ํจ๊ป ๋จธ์ ์ ์ฌ์ ์๋ก์๊ฒ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ํด ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์์ํ์ฃ . ์ฌ์ค ์ฒ์์ ‘์ฌ๋๋ค์๊ฒ ํด ์ค์ผ๊ฒ ๋ค’๋ผ๋ ๋ชฉํ๋ณด๋ค “์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์์ ์ ๋ชธ์ ๋ง์ด ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์ถ๋ค”๋ ๋ง์์ด ์ปธ์ด์. ๊ทธ๋์ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ์ ๊ฐ ์ง์ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์์ํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฑฐ์์.
Q
You mentioned you did graffiti. How has that influenced your tattoo style or philosophy?
ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใใใฃใฆใใใจใใฃใใใใพใใใ、ใใฎ็ต้จใฏใฟใใฅใผใฎในใฟใคใซใ็ๅฟตใซใฉใฎใใใชๅฝฑ้ฟใไธใใฆใใพใใ?
๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ฅผ ํ์
จ๋ค๊ณ ํ๋๋ฐ, ํํฌ ์์
์คํ์ผ์ด๋ ์ฒ ํ์ ์ด๋ค ์์ผ๋ก ์ํฅ์ ์ฃผ์๋์?
A
It definitely influenced me. When I started graffiti, I tried following popular styles, and as I explored different forms, I encountered old-school graffiti. Over time, I found the old-school vibe to be the most timeless and classic—it never got old. Likewise, when I saw old-school tattoos, I was convinced that even if my whole body was covered in them, I wouldn’t grow tired of it. I realized, ‘This is the pinnacle, a truly classic style.’ That’s why I focused on old-school tattoos, both for receiving them and giving them to others.
ๅคงใใชๅฝฑ้ฟใๅใใพใใใญ。ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใๅงใใ้ ใฏๆต่กใฃใฆใใในใฟใคใซใใใใใ็ไผผใใฆใฟใพใใใ、ใใใคใใฎในใฟใคใซใ่ฉฆใใฆใใใใกใซ‘ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซ’ใฎใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใซใๅบไผใฃใใใงใ。ๆ้ใ็ตใคใซใคใ、ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฎ้ฐๅฒๆฐใใใใใฃใจ่ฆ็ถใใฆใ้ฃฝใใ、ใฏใฉใทใใฏใช้ญ
ๅใๆใฃใฆใใใจๆใใพใใ。ๅใใใใซใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใ่ฆใใจใใ、ๅ
จ่บซใซๅ
ฅใใฆใ้ฃฝใใชใใ ใใใจ็ขบไฟกใใใใงใ。「ใใใ็ฉถๆฅตใง、ใฏใฉใทใใฏใชในใฟใคใซใชใใ 」ใจ。ใ ใใ่ชๅใๅใใใฎใ、ๆฝ่กใใใฎใ、ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซในใฟใคใซใซ้ไธญใใใใใซใชใใพใใ。
๋ถ๋ช
์ํฅ์ ์คฌ์ด์. ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ฅผ ์ฒ์ ํ ๋๋ ์ ํํ๋ ์คํ์ผ๋ค์ ๋ง ๋ฐ๋ผ ํด ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ณ , ์ฌ๋ฌ ์คํ์ผ์ ๊ฒฝํํ๋ ์ค์ ‘์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ’ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ ์ ํ์ด์. ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋ ์๋ก ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ๋๋์ด ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค๋ ๋ด๋ ์ง๋ฆฌ์ง ์๊ณ ํด๋์ํ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด ์๋๋ผ๊ณ ์. ๊ทธ๋์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ ์ญ์ “๋ชธ์ ๊ฐ๋ ์ฑ์๋ ์ง๋ฆฌ์ง ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋ค”๋ ํ์ ์ด ๋ค์์ด์.
๊ฒฐ๊ตญ “์ด๊ฒ ๋ํ์ด๊ตฌ๋, ๊ฐ์ฅ ํด๋์ํ๊ณ ์ค๋ ๋ด๋ ๋ฉ์ง ์คํ์ผ์ด๊ตฌ๋”๋ผ๋ ์๊ฐ์ด ๋ค์ด์, ์ ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ ํํฌ๋, ์ ๊ฐ ํ๋ ํํฌ๋ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ์ ์ง์คํ๊ฒ ๋์์ต๋๋ค.
Q
Both graffiti and tattooing originated from ‘street culture.’ What do you see as their commonalities and differences?
ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใจใฟใใฅใผใฏใฉใกใใ ‘ในใใชใผใๆๅ’ ใใ็บๅฑใใฆใใ้ขใใใใพใใ、ไธก่
ใฎๅ
ฑ้็นใจ็ธ้็นใฏไฝใ ใจๆใใพใใ?
๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ์ ํํฌ๋ ๋ชจ๋ ‘๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ’์์ ๋ฐ์ ํด ์จ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ ์ฅ๋ฅด ๊ฐ์ ๊ณตํต์ ๊ณผ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ ๋ฌด์์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์๋์?
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The biggest common factor is that both cultures developed in the United States. Graffiti mainly involves lettering, while tattooing employs various images like animals, but they both share a raw, rough-edged vibe. The difference is that graffiti is more about leaving your mark freely in public spaces without a commercial aspect, whereas tattooing is carried out between people—there’s a direct interaction in the process.
ๆๅคงใฎๅ
ฑ้็นใฏ、ใฉใกใใใขใกใชใซใง็บๅฑใใๆๅใจใใใใจใงใใญ。ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใฏๆๅญใใกใคใณใซๆฑใ、ใฟใใฅใผใฏๅ็ฉใชใฉๆงใ
ใชใคใกใผใธใไฝฟ็จใใใฎใง่กจ็พ่ฆ็ด ใฏ็ฐใชใใพใใ、ใใใใ็ใ
ใใใฟใใช้ฐๅฒๆฐใๆใฃใฆใใพใ。็ธ้็นใจใใฆใฏ、ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใฏๅๆฅญๆงใจใฏ็ก็ธใซ่ชๅใฎ็่ทกใๆฎใๆๅใงใใใฎใซๅฏพใ、ใฟใใฅใผใฏไบบใจไบบใจใฎ้ใง็ดๆฅใใๅใใ่กใใใ็นใๅคงใใใงใใญ。」
๊ณตํต์ ์ ๋ ๋ค ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์์ ๋ฐ์ ๋ ๋ฌธํ๋ผ๋ ์ ์ด ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฌ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ ์ฃผ๋ก ๊ธ์จ๋ฅผ ์ฐ๊ณ , ํํฌ๋ ๋ค์ํ ๋๋ฌผ์ด๋ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง๋ฅผ ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ๋ฑ ํํ ์์๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ค๋ฅด์ง๋ง, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ผ๋ก ๊ฑฐ์น ๊ณ ํฐํํ.. ๋ ๊ฒ๊ฐ์ ์ ์๊ฐ ๋น์ทํด์.
์ฐจ์ด์ ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ ์์ ์ฑ๊ณผ ๋ฌด๊ดํ๊ฒ ์์ํ๊ฒ ๊ธธ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์์ ์๊ธฐ ํ์ ์ ๋จ๊ธฐ๊ณ ์๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฌธํ์ ๊ฐ๊น์ฃ . ๋ฐ๋ฉด ํํฌ๋ ‘์ฌ๋๊ณผ ์ฌ๋’ ์ฌ์ด์์ ์์ ์ด ์ด๋ค์ง๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ์ํธ ๊ต๋ฅ๊ฐ ํจ์ฌ ์ง์ ์ ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ ์์ด์.
Q
What do you think is the unique charm of old-school tattoo style? Can you tell us more about its characteristic color palette and designs?
ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใชใใงใฏใฎ็ฌ็นใช้ญ
ๅใฏไฝใ ใจๆใใพใใ? ็นๆใฎ่ฒไฝฟใใใใถใคใณใซใคใใฆ、ใใๅฐใ่ฉณใใๆใใฆใใ ใใ。
์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ ์คํ์ผ์ด ๊ฐ์ง ๋
ํนํ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฌด์์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ณด์๋์? ๊ทธ ํน์ ์ ์๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋์์ ๋ํด ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ์์ธํ ๋ค๋ ค์ฃผ์ธ์.
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The biggest appeal of old-school tattoos is the ‘powerful simplicity.’ In other styles, adding more details or intricate shading might be seen as a sign of good technique, but old-school focuses on stripping away anything unnecessary and leaving just the essentials. By subtracting instead of adding, you can still achieve a strong impact with limited lines and colors. This may look simple at first, but it actually requires a lot of thought about concepts like composition, line thickness, and overall design. You need to make sure it’s ‘clean and complete,’ which requires more skill and taste.
It also has a clear symbolic message, bold lines, and striking contrast. These elements make it easy on the eyes and help it remain timeless.
ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใฎๆๅคงใฎ้ญ
ๅใฏ ‘ใทใณใใซใใฎไธญใซใใๅๅผทใ’ ใ ใจๆใใพใ。ไปใฎในใฟใคใซใฏ็ดฐ้จใๅ ใใใ、ใใๅๅฎ็ใซๆใใใใใใปใฉ「ไธๆใ」ใจๆใใใใใใจใใใใพใใ、ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฏ้ใซไธ่ฆใช่ฆ็ด ใๅใ่ฝใจใใฆ、ๆฌ่ณช็ใช้จๅใ ใใๆฎใใฎใ็นๅพดใงใ。ไฝ่จใชใใฎใๅ ใใชใใใใใ、้ใใใใฉใคใณใจใซใฉใผใ ใใงใๅๅใชใคใณใใฏใใๅบใใใใใงใ。ไธ่ฆใทใณใใซใงใใ、ใใฎใถใๆงๅณใใฉใคใณใฎๅคชใใชใฉ、ๅบๆฌ็ใช่ฆ็ด ใใใฃใใ่ใใชใใจใใใชใใฎใง、ใใใ้ซๅบฆใชๆ่กใจใปใณในใๆฑใใใใพใ。
ใพใ、ๆ็ขบใชใทใณใใซๆงใๅๅผทใใฉใคใณ、้ฎฎใใใชใณใณใใฉในใใใใใใ、่ฆใ็ฌ้ใซๅฐ่ฑกใซๆฎใ、ๆ้ใ็ตใฃใฆใ้ฃฝใใซใใใฎใ็นๅพดใ ใจๆใใพใ。
์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ‘์ฌํํจ ์์์ ์ค๋ ๊ฐ๋ ฌํจ’์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํด์. ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ฅ๋ฅด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์์ ๋ํ ์ผ์ ์ถ๊ฐํ๊ฑฐ๋ ๋ฌ์ฌ๋ฅผ ํ๋ถํ๊ฒ ํ ์๋ก ‘์ ๊ทธ๋ ธ๋ค’๊ณ ๋๋ ์ ์์ง๋ง, ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ์ ์คํ๋ ค ๋ถํ์ํ ์์๋ฅผ ์ต๋ํ ๋์ด๋ด๊ณ ํต์ฌ๋ง ๋จ๊ธฐ๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ์ฃ . ์ด๋ “๋บ์๋ก ๋ฉ์๋ค”๋ ๊ฐ๋ ์ด ์ ์ฉ๋๋ค ๋ณด๋, ์ ํ๋ ๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ํฉํธ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋ ์์ ์ด ๊ฐ๋ฅํด์. ๊ทธ๋์ ์์นซ ๋จ์ํด ๋ณด์ผ ์ ์์ง๋ง, ์์ด๋์ด๋ ๊ตฌ๋, ๋ผ์ธ ๋๊ป ๊ฐ์ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์์ ํ๋ํ๋์ ๊ต์ฅํ ํฐ ์ ๊ฒฝ์ ์จ์ผ ํด์. ‘๊ตฐ๋๋๊ธฐ ์์ด ์์ฑ๋ ๋์ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ’์ ๋ง๋ค๊ธฐ ์ํด์๋ ๋ ๊น์ด ๊ณ ๋ฏผํด์ผ ํ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ ์์ ์คํ๋ ค ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณผ ์๋ชฉ์ด ๋ ์๊ตฌ๋๋ค๊ณ ๋๋๋๋ค.
๋ช ๋ฃํ ์์ง์ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ๋ ฌํ ๋ผ์ธ, ๋๋น๊ฐ ์ด์ฐ๋ฌ์ ธ ์๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ํ๋์ ์ ๋ค์ด์ค๊ณ ์ค๋ ๋ด๋ ์ง๋ฆฌ์ง ์๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
Q
How do tattoo artists usually interact with one another?
ใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใๅๅฃซใฏๆฎๆฎตใฉใฎใใใซไบคๆตใใฆใใใฎใงใใ?
ํํฌ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค ๊ฐ์๋ ์ด๋ค ๋ฐฉ์์ผ๋ก ๊ต๋ฅ๊ฐ ์ด๋ค์ง๊ณ ์๋์?
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Usually there’s something called ‘guest work,’ where artists visit another tattoo shop to work together. In different regions, you can do tattoos at local shops, meet other artists, and learn about their history. In Korea, the guest work scene between different regions isn’t as vibrant as overseas. Many artists choose to travel abroad instead. That’s why having your own shop is important—you can invite other artists to come and work with you.
ไธ่ฌ็ใซใฏ ‘ใฒในใใฏใผใฏ’ ใจๅผใฐใใๅฝขใง、ไปใฎใฟใใฅใผใทใงใใใ่จชใใฆไธ็ทใซไฝๆฅญใใใใใจใๅคใใงใ。ๅฐๅใ็ฐใชใๅ ดๅ、ใใฎๅๅฐใฎใทใงใใใงใฟใใฅใผใใใชใใ็พๅฐใฎใขใผใใฃในใใจไบคๆตใ、ๅฝผใใฎใในใใชใผใ็ฅใใใจใใงใใพใ。ใใ 、้ๅฝใงใฏใพใ ๅฐๅ้ใฎใฒในใใฏใผใฏใๆตทๅคใปใฉๆดป็บใงใฏใชใ、ใใใๆตทๅคใธ่กใฃใฆไบคๆตใใใขใผใใฃในใใๅคใใงใใญ。ใ ใใใใ、่ชๅใฎใทใงใใใๆใคใใจใๅคงไบใง、ใใใซไปใฎใขใผใใฃในใใๅผใใงไธ็ทใซไฝๆฅญใงใใใใงใ。
๋ณดํต ‘๊ฒ์คํธ ์ํฌ’๋ผ๊ณ ํด์, ๋ค๋ฅธ ํํฌ์ต์ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํด ํจ๊ป ์์
ํ๋ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ง์์. ์ง์ญ์ด ๋ค๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ต์์ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ํ๋ฉด์ ํ์ง ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅ๋ ํ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ค์ ํ์คํ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์ฐ๊ธฐ๋ ํ์ฃ .
ํ๊ตญ์ ์์ง ์ง์ญ ๊ฐ ‘๊ฒ์คํธ ์ํฌ’ ๋ฌธํ๊ฐ ํด์ธ๋งํผ ํ๋ฐํ์ง๋ ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์. ๋์ ํด์ธ๋ก ๋๊ฐ์ ๊ต๋ฅํ๋ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ ์์ ๋ง์ ์ต์ ์ด์ํ๋ ๊ฒ ์ค์ํ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋์ผ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ํด ํจ๊ป ์์ ํ ์ ์์ผ๋๊น์.
Q
Compared to the past, it seems like the Korean tattoo scene has changed a lot. What’s the current atmosphere like, and what do you think has changed the most?
้ๅปใจๆฏในใฆ、้ๅฝใฎใฟใใฅใผใทใผใณใฏๅคงใใๅคๅใใฆใใใใใซๆใใพใใ、็พๅจใฎ้ฐๅฒๆฐใฏใฉใฎใใใชๆใใงใใใใ? ใพใ、ๆใๅคใใฃใ็นใฏไฝใ ใจๆใใพใใ?
๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ ๋น๊ตํ์ ๋, ํ๊ตญ ํํฌ์ฌ์ด ๋ง์ด ๋ฐ๋์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ฌ ๋ถ์๊ธฐ๋ ์ด๋ป๊ณ , ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ฌ๋ผ์ง ์ ์ ๋ฌด์์ธ๊ฐ์?
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The infrastructure has definitely increased compared to before, but it also grew haphazardly, causing some stagnation now. We’re in a transitional period. Among all this, only those who really do it right seem to remain. The biggest change is that there are many more tattoo shops, and people can more easily find information about tattoos than in the past.
ใคใณใใฉใฏไปฅๅใใ็ขบๅฎใซๆดใฃใฆใใพใใใ、ๅขใไปปใใซๅขใใ้ขใใใฃใฆ、ไปใฏใใๅๆปใใฆใใใใใซๆใใพใ。้ๆธกๆใซใใใจใใใ、ใใฎไธญใงใใใกใใจใใฃใฆใใไบบใ ใใๆฎใฃใฆใใๅฐ่ฑกใงใใญ。ใใกใฐใๅคงใใชๅคๅใจใใใฐ、ใฟใใฅใผใทใงใใใฎๆฐใๅขใ、ใฟใใฅใผใซ้ขใใๆ
ๅ ฑใๆใซๅ
ฅใใใใใชใฃใ็นใ ใจๆใใพใ。
ํ์คํ ์ธํ๋ผ๊ฐ ์์ ๋ณด๋ค ๋ง์ด ์๊ฒผ์ง๋ง, ๋์์ ์ฐํ์ฃฝ์์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๋๋ค ๋ณด๋ ์ง๊ธ์ ์ด๋ ์ ๋ ์ ์ฒด๋ ๋๋๋ ์์ด์. ๊ณผ๋๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ง๋๊ณ ์๋ ์ค์ด๊ณ .. ๊ทธ ์์ค์ ์ ๋๋ก ํ๋ ์ฌ๋๋ง ๋จ๋ ๋ถ์๊ธฐ์ฃ . ์์ ๊ณผ ๋ฌ๋ผ์ง ์ ์ ๊ผฝ์๋ฉด, ์ผ๋จ ํํฌ์ต์ด ๋ง์ด ๋๊ณ , ์ฌ๋๋ค๋ ํํฌ์ ๋ํ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์ฌ์์ก๋ค๋ ์ ๋๊ฒ ๋ค์.
Q
I know tattoo legalization in Korea hasn’t been fully resolved yet. Have you experienced any difficulties related to this issue, or do you have any hopes regarding this matter?
้ๅฝใงใฏใพใ ใฟใใฅใผใฎๅๆณๅใๅฎๅ
จใซ้ฒใใงใใชใใจไผบใฃใฆใใพใใ、ใใใซ้ข้ฃใใฆไฝใๅฐใฃใใใจใ、ๆใใงใใใใจใใใใฐๆใใฆใใ ใใ。
ํ๊ตญ์์๋ ์์ง ํํฌ ํฉ๋ฒํ ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ ์์ ํ ํด๊ฒฐ๋์ง ์์ ๊ฒ์ผ๋ก ์๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ด์ ๊ด๋ จํด ๊ฒช์๋ ์ด๋ ค์์ด๋ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ ์ ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์์ธ๊ฐ์?
A
The fact that tattoos aren’t legally recognized in Korea becomes a major obstacle, not just in work but also in public perception. Many people see tattoos simply as an illegal act and don’t look into the artistic value or the safety of the process. But I believe laws can change as times and mindsets shift.
For instance, there used to be heavy regulations on the music industry, but musicians like Deulgukhwa or Sanulrim* kept pushing boundaries, and that eventually eased the regulations and established a new music culture. I think the same logic applies to tattooing. Right now, it’s labeled ‘illegal,’ so people just say, ‘It’s illegal, so no,’ but if we start questioning why it’s illegal, I believe the system will naturally evolve one day.
The most important thing is that people who love tattoo culture continue their work without stopping. As long as tattooists and clients do their part, maintaining a high standard of safety and seriousness in their art, society and its laws will change in the long run. Even though it’s not yet legal, I don’t plan to give up. I take pride in my work and will keep moving forward.
Of course, a lot of people worry about safety and hygiene, which is why tattooists themselves should rigorously maintain these standards and clearly communicate them to the public. Eventually, I believe we’ll be able to work openly within the legal framework.
*<They are representative Korean rock bands formed in the 1970s and 1980s.>
้ๅฝใงใฏใฟใใฅใผใๅๆณๅใใใฆใใชใใจใใไบๅฎใ、ไฝๆฅญ้ขใ ใใงใชใ、ไธ้ใฎ่ช่ญใซใใใฆใๅคงใใชๅฃใซใชใฃใฆใใใจๆใใพใ。ๅคใใฎไบบใฏ「้ๆณ่ก็บ」ใจใ ใ่ฆใฆใใพใ、ใใฎไธญใซใใ่ธ่กๆงใๆฝ่กๅทฅ็จใฎๅฎๅ
จๆงใชใฉใๆทฑใ่ใใใใจใใพใใ。ใใใ、ๆณๅพใจใใใฎใฏๆไปฃใไบบใ
ใฎ่ใๆนใฎๅคๅใซไผดใฃใฆๅๅใซๅคใใๅพใใใฎใ ใจๆใใใงใ。
ใใจใใฐ้ณๆฅฝๆฅญ็ใงใ、ๆใฏ้ๅธธใซๅณใใ่ฆๅถใใใใพใใใ、ใใใพใๆดปๅใ็ถใใใใฅใผใธใทใฃใณ(ใใจใใฐใใซใฐใฏใใกใใตใใซใชใ ใชใฉ)*ใใใใใใใ、่ฆๅถใ็ทฉๅใใๆฐใใ้ณๆฅฝๆๅใๅฎ็ใใฆใใใพใใ。ใฟใใฅใผใๅใใ ใจ่ใใฆใใพใ。็พๆ็นใงใฏ「้ๆณ」ใจใใใฌใใใซใ่ฒผใใใฆใใใฎใง、็ใ「้ๆณใ ใใใใกใ 」ใจ่จใใใกใงใใ、「ใชใ้ๆณใงใใในใใชใฎใ?」ใๅใๅงใใใฐ、ใใคใ่ช็ถใซๅถๅบฆใๅคๅใใฆใใใจไฟกใใฆใใพใ。
ใใฎ้็จใงๆใๅคงๅใชใฎใฏ、ใฟใใฅใผใจใใๆๅใ่ธ่กใๆใใไบบใ ใๆดปๅใๆญขใใชใใใจใงใใญ。ใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใใฟใใฅใผใๅใใไบบใใกใ、่ชๅใใกใฎๅฝนๅฒใๆใใ、ๅฎๅ จใง็ๅฃใช่ธ่กๆดปๅใ ใจ็คบใ็ถใใใฐ、ๆ็ต็ใซ็คพไผใๅถๅบฆใๅคใใฃใฆใใใฏใใงใ。็ง่ช่บซใฏ、ใพใ ๅๆณๅใใใฆใใชใใฆใ่ซฆใใใคใใใฏใชใ、่ชๅใฎไปไบใซ่ชใใๆใฃใฆๆดปๅใ็ถใใใใจๆใฃใฆใใพใ。
ใใกใใ、ๅฎๅ
จๆงใ่ก็้ขใๆฐใซใใใๆนใๅคใใงใใใ、ใใใใ้จๅใฏใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใ่ชใๅพนๅบใใฆ็ฎก็·้ ๅฎใ、ใใใๅคง่กใซๅๅใซ่ชฌๆใ็่งฃใใฆใใใๅฟ
่ฆใใใใจ่ใใพใ。ใใใใฆใใ、ใใคใๆณ็ใชๆ ็ตใฟใฎไธญใงๅ ใ
ใจๆฝ่กใงใใ็ฐๅขใๆดใใฎใงใฏใชใใงใใใใ。
*<1970ๅนดไปฃใจ1980ๅนดไปฃใซ็ตๆใใใ้ๅฝใไปฃ่กจใใใญใใฏใใณใใงใ。>
ํํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฒ์ ์ผ๋ก ํฉ๋ฒํ๋์ง ์์๋ค๋ ์ฌ์ค ์์ฒด๊ฐ, ์์
ํ ๋๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ์ผ์์ ์ธ ์ธ์์๋ ํฐ ์ฅ๋ฒฝ์ ๋ง๋ ๋ค๊ณ ๋๊ปด์. ๋ง์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ํํฌ๋ฅผ ‘ํฉ๋ฒ์ด ์๋ ํ์’๋ผ๊ณ ๋จ์ ์ง์ด๋ฒ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์์ ๋ด๊ธด ์์ ์ ๊ฐ์น๋ ์์
๊ณผ์ ์ ์์ ์ฑ ๋ฑ์ ์ดํด๋ณด๋ ค ํ์ง ์์ฃ . ์ฌ์ค ๋ฒ์ ๊ณ ์ ๋ ์ ๋๊ฐ ์๋๋ผ, ์๋์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๋ฐ๋์ด ๊ฐ๋ ํ๋ฆ์ ๋ฐ๋ผ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ๊ฐ์ ๋ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด, ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ์์ ๊ณ์๋ ์์ฒญ๋๊ฒ ๊ฐํ ๊ท์ ๊ฐ ์์๋๋ฐ, ๋ค๊ตญํ๋ ์ฐ์ธ๋ฆผ* ๊ฐ์ ๋ฎค์ง์ ๋ค์ด ๋์์์ด ์ฐฝ์ ํ๋์ ์ด์ด ๊ฐ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ทธ ๊ท์ ๋ ์ํ๋๊ณ ์๋ก์ด ์์ ๋ฌธํ๊ฐ ์๋ฆฌ ์ก์์์์. ํํฌ๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง๋ผ๊ณ ๋ด์. ์ง๊ธ ๋น์ฅ์ ๋ถ๋ฒ์ด๋ผ๋ ๊ผฌ๋ฆฌํ๊ฐ ๋ถ์ด ์์ด์ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด “๋ถ๋ฒ์ด๋๊น ์ ๋ผ”๋ผ๊ณ ๋ง ๋งํ์ง๋ง, “์ ์ด๊ฒ ๋ถ๋ฒ์ด์ด์ผ ํ์ง?”๋ผ๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ์ค์ค๋ก์๊ฒ ๋์ง๋ค ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ธ์ ๊ฐ๋ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ์ ๋๋ ๋ณํํ๊ฒ ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค.
๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค์ํ ๊ฑด, ํํฌ๋ผ๋ ๋ฌธํ๋ ์์ ์ ์ข์ํ๋ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๊ณ์ ์์
์ ๋ฉ์ถ์ง ์๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํด์. ํํฌ์ด์คํธ๋ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ ์ด๋ค์ด ์๊ธฐ ๋ชซ์ ๋คํ๋ฉด์, ‘์์ ํ๊ณ ์ง์งํ ์์ ํ๋’์ด๋ผ๋ ๊ฑธ ๊พธ์คํ ๋ณด์ฌ ์ฃผ๋ฉด, ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฌํ์ ์ ๋๋ ๋ณํ๊ฒ ๋๊ฒ ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋์ ์ ๋ ๋น์ฅ ํฉ๋ฒํ๊ฐ ์ด๋ค์ง์ง ์์๋ ํฌ๊ธฐํ์ง ์๊ณ , ์ ์์
์ ๋ํ ์๋ถ์ฌ์ ์งํค๋ฉด์ ๊ณ์ ํ๋ํด ๋๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค.
๋ฌผ๋ก ์ง๊ธ๋ ๋ง์ ๋ถ์ด ์์ ์ฑ์ด๋ ์์ ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋ํด ์ฐ๋ คํ์๋ ๋งํผ, ์ด๋ฐ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ํํฌ์ด์คํธ๋ค ์ค์ค๋ก๊ฐ ์ฒ ์ ํ ๊ด๋ฆฌ·์ค์ํด์ผ ํ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋์ค์๊ฒ ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์ค๋ช
ํ๊ณ ์ธ์์ํค๋ ๊ฒ๋ ํ์ํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ด์. ๊ทธ๋์ผ ์ธ์ ๊ฐ ๋ฒ์ ํ
๋๋ฆฌ ์์์ ๋น๋นํ๊ฒ ์์
์ ํ ์ ์๋ ํ๊ฒฝ์ด ๋ง๋ค์ด์ง ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค.
*<70๋ ๋์ 80๋ ๋์ ๊ฒฐ์ฑ๋ ํ๊ตญ์ ๋ํ์ ์ธ ๋ก๋ฐด๋>
Q
Do you feel that people’s perception of tattoos has improved compared to the past? If there are still misunderstandings or prejudices, what are they?
ไปฅๅใจๆฏในใฆ、ใฟใใฅใผใซๅฏพใใ็คพไผ็ใช่ช่ญใฏๆนๅใใใใจๆใใพใใ? ใใใงใๆฎใฃใฆใใ่ชค่งฃใๅ่ฆใใใใจใใใ、ใฉใฎใใใชใใฎใงใใใใ?
ํํฌ์ ๋ํ ์ฌํ์ ์ธ์์ด ์์ ๋ณด๋ค ๋ง์ด ๊ฐ์ ๋์๋ค๊ณ ๋๋ผ์๋์? ์ฌ์ ํ ์คํด๋ ํธ๊ฒฌ์ด ๋จ์์๋ค๋ฉด ์ด๋ค ๊ฒ์ด ์๋์?
A
In many Asian countries, there still seems to be an association of tattoos with organized crime or violence. In Western countries, tattoos have been around for generations—grandfathers and great-grandfathers—and there isn’t that threatening perception. But in Asia, there’s a history where gangs used tattoos for intimidation or showing off. Also, society here is relatively conservative, so people remain cautious or even hostile toward tattoos.
ใขใธใขๅใซใฏ、ใใพใ ใซใฟใใฅใผใ ‘ๆดๅๅฃใฎๅ
ฅใๅขจ’ ใๆดๅ็ใชใคใกใผใธใจ็ตใณใคใใ่ฆๆนใๆฎใฃใฆใใใใใซๆใใพใ。ไธๆนใงๆฌง็ฑณใงใฏ็ฅ็ถใๆพ็ฅ็ถใฎไธไปฃใใใฟใใฅใผใไธ่ฌ็ใ ใฃใใใ、่
่ฟซ็ใชใคใกใผใธใฏใปใจใใฉใใใพใใ。ใใใใขใธใขใงใฏ、ๆใใๆดๅ็ต็นใๅจๅใ่ช็คบใฎ็ฎ็ใงใฟใใฅใผใไฝฟ็จใใฆใใๆญดๅฒใใใ、็คพไผใๆฏ่ผ็ไฟๅฎ็ใชใฎใง、ไพ็ถใจใใฆๆตๆๆใๆใคไบบใๅคใใงใใญ。
์์์ ์ชฝ์๋ ์์ง๋ ‘์กฐํญ ๋ฌธ์ ’ ํน์ ํญ๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๋๋์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๋ ์์ ์ด ๋จ์ ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์. ์์์์๋ ํ ์๋ฒ์ง๋ ์ฆ์กฐํ ์๋ฒ์ง ์๋๋ถํฐ๋ ํํฌ๊ฐ ํํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ์ํ์ ์ธ ์์ง์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๊ฒฐ์ง๋ ๋ถ์๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์์ฃ . ๋ฐ๋ฉด ์์์์์๋ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ ํญ๋ ฅ ์ง๋จ์ด ์ํ์ , ๊ณผ์ํ๊ธฐ์ํ ์ฉ๋๋ก ํํฌ๋ฅผ ํ๋ ์ญ์ฌ๊ฐ ์๊ณ , ์ฌํ๋ ๋น๊ต์ ๋ณด์์ ์ด๋ผ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ๊ฐ์ด ์ฌ์ ํ ์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค.
Q
As both a graffiti artist and a tattooist, what does that dual identity mean to your work? Do you see these identities as complementary to each other?
ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใขใผใใฃในใใงใใใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใงใใใใจใใไบใคใฎใขใคใใณใใฃใใฃใฏ、ใใชใใฎไฝๅใซใฉใฎใใใชๆๅณใๆใกใพใใ? ใไบใใซ่ฃๅฎใๅใ้ขไฟใ ใจๆใใพใใ?
๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ํฐ์คํธ์ด์ ํํฌ์ด์คํธ๋ก์์ ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ ๋ณธ์ธ ์์
์ ์ด๋ค ์๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋์? ๋ ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ด ์๋ก ๋ณด์ ๊ด๊ณ๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์๋์?
A
Though both graffiti and tattooing come from a similar ‘street culture’ background, I personally choose to keep these two identities somewhat separate. Even if I’ve done graffiti, it doesn’t mean I incorporate those exact styles or images directly into my tattoo work. I believe each medium—tattoo and graffiti—has its own characteristics and artistic flow.
That doesn’t mean the two cultures are unrelated. Historically, there have been plenty of artists who were active in both scenes. For instance, legendary New York graffiti artist SEEN and tattoo master Bob Roberts show us how graffiti and tattoo can intersect and influence each other. Both emphasize ‘freedom of expression.’
However, I don’t subscribe to the idea, ‘Since I did graffiti, I must apply graffiti techniques to tattoos.’ I respect the distinct identity of each genre, and I feel that my approach as a graffiti artist differs from my approach as a tattooist.
Both cultures inspire me greatly, but how I blend that inspiration into my work is entirely my choice. On one hand, I keep them independent, but on the other, I know they can affect my mindset and artistic attitude. They share a common root in ‘street culture’ but grow as different branches within me.
ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใจใฟใใฅใผใฏใใใใ ‘ในใใชใผใใซใซใใฃใผ’ ใซ็ฑๆฅใใฆใใพใใ、็งใฏใใใฆใใฎไบใคใฎใขใคใใณใใฃใใฃใใใ็จๅบฆๅใใฆ่ใใฆใใพใ。ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใใใฃใฆใใใใใจใใฃใฆ、ใใฎในใฟใคใซใใคใกใผใธใใฟใใฅใผใซใใฎใพใพๆดปใใใใใงใฏใใใพใใ。ใฟใใฅใผใซใฏใฟใใฅใผใฎ็นๆงใๆตใใใใ、ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใซใฏใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใชใใฎ็นๅพดใใใใจ่ใใฆใใใใงใ。
ใจใฏใใ、ไธก่ ใใพใฃใใ็ก้ขไฟใจใใใใใงใใใใพใใ。ๆญดๅฒ็ใซใ、ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใจใฟใใฅใผๅๆนใงๆดป่บใใฆใใใขใผใใฃในใใฏๅคใใใพใ。ใใจใใฐ、ใใฅใผใจใผใฏใฎไผ่ชฌ็ใชใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใขใผใใฃในใSEENใ、ใฟใใฅใผ็ใฎๅทจๅ ใใ·ใญใใผใใฎใใใซ、ไธกๆนใฎใทใผใณใไบคใใๅใไพใใใใใงใ。ใฉใกใใ‘่ชๅทฑ่กจ็พใฎ่ช็ฑ’ใ้่ฆใใใจใใๅ ฑ้็นใใใใพใใใญ。
ใใ 「ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใใใฃใฆใใใใใฟใใฅใผใซใใใฎๆๆณใๅใๅ ฅใใชใใใฐใใใชใ」ใจใใ่ใๆนใฏใใฆใใพใใ。ๅใธใฃใณใซใๆใคๅบๆใฎใขใคใใณใใฃใใฃใๅคงไบใซใใใใงใใ、็ง่ช่บซ、ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใขใผใใฃในใใจใใฆใฎๆนๅๆงใจ、ใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใจใใฆใฎๆนๅๆงใใใใใ็ฐใชใใจๆใใฆใใพใ。
ไบใคใฎใซใซใใฃใผใฏใใใใๅคงใใชใคใณในใใฌใผใทใงใณๆบใงใใ、ใใใใฉใฎใใใซไฝๅใซๅๆ ใใใใฏ่ชๅๆฌก็ฌฌใ ใจๆใใพใ。็ๆนใงใฏ็ฌ็ซๆงใไฟใกใคใค、ใใ็ๆนใงใฏใขใผใใฃในใใจใใฆใฎๅงฟๅขใ่ใๆนใซๅฝฑ้ฟใไธใใๅ ดๅใใใ、ใจใใฃใใจใใใงใใใใ。ๅใ‘ในใใชใผใใซใซใใฃใผ’ใจใใๆ นใๅ
ฑๆใใชใใ、ใใใใๅฅใฎๆใจใใฆไผธใณใฆใใใคใกใผใธใงใใญ。
๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ์ ํํฌ๋ ๋น์ทํ ‘๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ’์์ ๋น๋กฏ๋์์ง๋ง, ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ์๋ ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ ๋ถ๋ฆฌํด์ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ด์. ์ ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ฅผ ํ๋ค๊ณ ํด์, ๊ทธ ์คํ์ผ์ด๋ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง๋ฅผ ํํฌ์ ๊ทธ๋๋ก ๋
น์ฌ ๋ด๋ ๊ฑด ์๋๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ํํฌ๋ ํํฌ๋๋ก, ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋๋ก ๊ฐ์์ ํน์ฑ๊ณผ ํ๋ฆ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๊ณ ํด์ ๋ ๋ฌธํ๊ฐ ์ ํ ๊ด๋ จ์ด ์๋ค๋ ๋ป์ ์๋์์. ์ฌ์ค ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ์ ํํฌ๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ๋ผ๋ ๊ณตํต ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์๊ณ , ์ญ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ํจ๊ป ํ๋ํ ์์ ๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๊ฝค ๋ง์์. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ๋ด์์ ์ ์ค์ ์ธ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ํฐ์คํธ ‘์ฌ(SEEN)’์ด๋ ํํฌ๊ณ์ ๊ฑฐ์ฅ ‘๋ฐฅ ๋ก๋ฒ์ธ (Bob Roberts)’ ๊ฐ์ ์ธ๋ฌผ๋ค์ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋ ์ (Scene) ๊ฐ์ ๊ต๋ฅ์ ์ํธ ์ํฅ์ด ๋ถ๋ช ํ ์กด์ฌํ์ฃ . ๋ฉ์์ง๋ ์์ ๋ฐฉ์ ๋ฉด์์๋ ‘์๊ธฐ ํํ์ ์์ ’๋ฅผ ์ค์์ํ๋ค๋ ๊ณตํต์ ์ด ์๊ณ ์.
๋ค๋ง ์ ๋ “๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ฅผ ํ์ผ๋ ๋น์ฐํ ํํฌ์๋ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฒ์ ์จ์ผ๊ฒ ๋ค”๋ ์์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ทผํ์ง ์์์. ๊ฐ ์ฅ๋ฅด๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ ์กด์คํ๊ณ ์ถ๊ณ , ์ ์ค์ค๋ก๋ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ก์ ์ถ๊ตฌํ๋ ๋ฐฉํฅ๊ณผ ํํฌ์ด์คํธ๋ก์ ์ถ๊ตฌํ๋ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ด ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ค๋ฅด๋ค๊ณ ๋๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ด์์.
๋ ๋ฌธํ ๋ชจ๋ ์ ์๊ฒ๋ ํฐ ์๊ฐ์ ์์ฒ์ด์ง๋ง, ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ์ด๋ค ์์ผ๋ก ์์ ์ ๋ น์ผ์ง๋ ์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ์ ์ ํ๊ณผ ํด์์ ๋ฌ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์. ํ ํธ์ผ๋ก๋ ๋ ๋ฆฝ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ์งํ๋ฉด์๋, ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ ํธ์ผ๋ก๋ ์์ ๊ฐ๋ก์์ ํ๋๋ ์ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์์๋ ์๋ก ์ํฅ์ ์ค ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. “๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ”๋ผ๋ ๋ฟ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ณต์ ํ๋, ์ ์์์ ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ์ง๋ก ๋ป์ด ๋๊ฐ๋ ๋๋์ด๋ผ๊ณ ํ ๊น์.
Q
What is the biggest challenge you face running your own tattoo shop, and conversely, when do you feel the most rewarded?
ๅไบบใฎใฟใใฅใผใทใงใใใ้ๅถใใไธใง、ๆใๅคงใใชๅฐ้ฃใฏไฝใงใใใใ? ้ใซ、ไธ็ชใใใใใๆใใใฎใฏใฉใใช็ฌ้ใงใใ?
๊ฐ์ธ ํํฌ์ต์ ์ด์ํ๋ฉด์ ๊ฒช๋ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ์ด๋ ค์๊ณผ, ๋ฐ๋๋ก ๊ฐ์ฅ ๋ณด๋ ์๋ ์๊ฐ์ ์ธ์ ์ธ๊ฐ์?
A
The most challenging aspect is that tattooing is still illegal in Korea, so we can’t accept walk-in clients as freely as in the U.S. It’s not like a hair salon where anyone can casually drop by. We have to run on a reservation-only system.
The moment I feel the most rewarded is when foreign artists I admire visit Korea and work as guests in my shop. That really makes me happy.
ใใกใฐใ้ฃใใใฎใฏ、้ๅฝใงใฏใพใ ใฟใใฅใผใๅๆณใงใฏใชใใใ、ใขใกใชใซใฎใใใซ่ช็ฑใซใฆใฉใผใฏใคใณใฎใๅฎขใใใๅใใใใชใใใจใงใใญ。็พๅฎนๅฎคใฎใใใซ่ชฐใงใๆฐ่ปฝใซ็ซใกๅฏใใใใใงใฏใใใพใใ。ใใฎใใๅฎๅ
จไบ็ดๅถใง้ๅถใใใใๅพใชใใใงใ。
ไธๆนใงๆใใใใใใๆใใใฎใฏ、็งใใชในใใฏใใใฆใใๆตทๅคใฎใขใผใใฃในใใ้ๅฝใซๆฅใฆ、ใฒในใใฏใผใฏใ็งใฎใทใงใใใงใใฆใใใใจใใงใ。ใใฎ็ฌ้ใฏๆฌๅฝใซๅฌใใใงใใญ。
์ด๋ ค์ด ์ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋๋ผ์์๋ ์์ง ํํฌ๊ฐ ํฉ๋ฒ์ด ์๋๋ค ๋ณด๋, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ฒ๋ผ ์ํฌ์ธ์ ์์ ๋กญ๊ฒ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์๋ค๋ ๊ฑฐ์์. ๋ฏธ์ฉ์ค ๊ฐ๋ฏ์ด ๋๊ตฌ๋ ํธํ๊ฒ ์ฐพ์์ค๋ ํ๊ฒฝ์ด ์๋๋ผ, ์์ฝ์ ๋ก๋ง ์ด์ํด์ผ ํ๋๊น์.
๋ณด๋์ ๋๋ ๋๋ ์ ๊ฐ ์กด๊ฒฝํ๋ ์ธ๊ตญ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค์ด ํ๊ตญ์ ์์ ๋, ์ ์ต์์ ๊ฒ์คํธ ์ํฌ๋ฅผ ํด์ฃผ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ ์๊ฐ์ด์์. ๊ทธ๋ด ๋ ์ ๋ง ๊ธฐ์์ฃ .
Q
I heard your tattoo shop was located in the Hongdae area but recently moved to the outskirts of Seoul. Why did you decide to relocate?
ไปฅๅใฏใใณใ(ๅผๅคง)ๅฐๅบใซใฟใใฅใผใทใงใใใๆงใใฆใใใใใงใใ、ๆ่ฟใฝใฆใซ้ๅคใธ็งป่ปขใใใจใฎใใจ。็งป่ปขใฎ็็ฑใฏไฝใงใใใใ?
ํํฌ์ต์ด ํ๋๋ผ๋ ์ง์ญ์ ์๋ค๊ฐ ์ต๊ทผ ์์ธ ์ธ๊ณฝ์ผ๋ก ์ฎ๊ฒผ๋๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ์๋์ง?
A
Because I run on an appointment-only basis, there was no real need to stay in Hongdae. Hongdae used to have an ‘artistic vibe’ and I lived there for a long time, so it was natural to open a shop there. But over time, it became more of a tourist area, and since I don’t take walk-ins anyway, being in Hongdae wasn’t necessary anymore.
I decided to move to a more spacious and comfortable location on the outskirts of Seoul. Clients don’t mind making a reservation and coming out here, and the improved environment is definitely a plus. Most importantly, I can customize the space to match my work style and how I greet customers.
ๅฎๅ จไบ็ดๅถใง้ๅถใใฆใใใฎใง、ใใณใใซใใๅฟ ่ฆๆงใใใพใๆใใชใใชใฃใใใงใ。ใใณใใฏใใคใฆ ‘ใขใผใใฃในใใฎ่ก’ ใจใใ้ฐๅฒๆฐใใใ、็ง่ช่บซใ้ทใไฝใใงใใใฎใง่ช็ถใซใทใงใใใๆงใใพใใใ、ๆ้ใ็ตใคใซใคใ่ฆณๅ ๅฐใฎๆงๆ ผใๅผทใใชใฃใฆใใพใฃใฆ。ใฆใฉใผใฏใคใณใๅใใชใ็งใซใจใฃใฆใฏ、ใใใใใใใซ็ใพใๆๅณใใชใใชใฃใฆใใใใงใ。
ใใใงใฝใฆใซ้ๅคใฎ、ใใๅบใๅฟซ้ฉใชๅ ดๆใซ็งป่ปขใใใใจใซใใพใใ。ไบ็ดๅถใชใฎใง、ใๅฎขๆงใใใใพใง่ถณใ้ใถใใจใๆฐใซใใใชใใงใใ、ไฝๆฅญ็ฐๅขใใใชใๅไธใใพใใ。ไฝใใใ、่ชๅใฎในใฟใคใซใๆฅๅฎขใซๅใใใฆ็ฉบ้ใไฝใใ็นใๅคงใใชใกใชใใใงใใญ。
์ ๋ ์์ฝ์ ๋ก๋ง ์ด์ํ๋ค ๋ณด๋, ๊ผญ ํ๋์ ์์ด์ผ ํ ํ์์ฑ์ ๋ชป ๋๋ผ๊ฒ ๋์ด์. ์์ ์๋ ํ๋๊ฐ ‘์์ ๊ฐ๋ค์ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ’ ๋๋์ด ์์๊ณ , ์ ๋ ์ค๋ซ๋์ ๊ทธ ๊ทผ์ฒ์ ์ด์์ผ๋ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ์๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ก์์ฃ . ๊ฒ๋ค๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ ์ง์ธ๋ค์ด๋ ์๋๋ค๋ ํ๋ ์ชฝ์ ๋ง์ด ์ค๋ ํธ๋ฆฌํ๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ณ ์.
๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์ด์ ์๊ฐ์ด ํ๋ฅด๋ฉด์ ํ๋๊ฐ ๊ด๊ด์ง ์ฑ๊ฒฉ์ด ๋๋ฌด ๊ฐํด์ก๊ณ , ์ ๋ ์ํฌ์ธ ์๋์ ๋ฐ์ง ์์ผ๋ ๊ตณ์ด ๊ทธ ์๋ฆฌ์ ์์ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ผ์ก์ด์. ๋์ ์ข ๋ ๋๊ณ ์พ์ ํ ๊ณต๊ฐ์ ์ฐพ์์ ์์ธ ์ธ๊ณฝ์ผ๋ก ์ฎ๊ธด ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์์ฝ์ ๋ก ์งํํ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์๋๋ค์ด ์ฐพ์์ค๋ ๋ฐ ํฐ ๋ถํธ์ ์๊ณ , ์์ ํ๊ฒฝ์ด ๋ ํธ์ํด์ก๋ค๋ ์ ์ด ์ข์์. ๋ฌด์๋ณด๋ค๋ ์ ์์ ์คํ์ผ์ด๋ ์๋ ์๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ง์ถฐ ๊ณต๊ฐ์ ๊พธ๋ฆด ์ ์๋ ๊ฒ ํฐ ์ฅ์ ์ด์ฃ .
Q
Where do you usually get inspiration for your old-school designs? Do you directly reference traditional patterns or American traditional tattoo designs?
ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฎใใถใคใณใซ้ขใใฆใฏ、ๆฎๆฎตใฉใใใใคใณในใใฌใผใทใงใณใๅพใฆใใพใใ? ไผ็ตฑ็ใชๆๆงใใขใกใชใซใณใใฉใใฃใทใงใใซใฎใฟใใฅใผใใถใคใณใ็ดๆฅๅ็
งใใใฎใงใใใใ?
์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ๋์์ธ์ ๋ํ ์๊ฐ์ ์ฃผ๋ก ์ด๋์ ์ป์ผ์๋์? ์ ์ ํต ๋ฌธ์์ด๋ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ ํต ํํฌ์ ๋์ ๋ฑ์์ ์ง์ ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐจ์ฉํ์๋์?
A
Old-school is literally the ‘American Traditional’ style. Most of the time, we remake images from that era or slightly customize them.
ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฏๆๅญ้ใ ‘ใขใกใชใซใณใใฉใใฃใทใงใใซ’ ใชในใฟใคใซใชใฎใง、ใใฎๆไปฃใฎใคใกใผใธใใชใกใคใฏใใใ、ๅฐใใซในใฟใใคใบใใฆไฝฟใใใจใใปใจใใฉใงใใญ。
์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ์ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋๋ก ‘์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ํธ๋ ๋์
๋’ ํํฌ ์คํ์ผ์ด์์. ๊ทธ ์์ ์์
์๋ค์ด ๋จ๊ธด ์ด๋ฏธ์ง๋ฅผ ๋ฆฌ๋ฉ์ดํฌํ๊ฑฐ๋, ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ์ปค์คํ
ํด์ ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ๊ฒ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ด์์.
Q
Do you still keep in touch with the graffiti scene? Are you continuing graffiti work alongside your tattoo work?
็พๅจใใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใทใผใณใจใฎใคใชใใใฏใใใพใใ? ใฟใใฅใผใฎไปไบใจไธฆ่กใใฆใฐใฉใใฃใใฃๆดปๅใ็ถใใฆใใใฎใงใใใใ?
์ง๊ธ๋ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ (Scene)๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅํ์๋์? ํํฌ ์์
์ธ์ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์์
์ ์ด์ด๊ฐ๊ณ ์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค.
A
I don’t do it as frequently as before, but when friends from abroad come to visit, we sometimes paint together. I also check out graffiti exhibitions in Korea. The direct interaction is less frequent, but I maintain connections on a friendly basis.
ไปฅๅใฎใใใซ้ ป็นใงใฏใใใพใใใ、ๆตทๅคใฎๅไบบใๆฅใใจใใซใฏไธ็ทใซใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใๆใใใจใใใใพใใ、้ๅฝๅ
ใง้ใใใใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใฎๅฑ็คบไผใซ่ถณใ้ใถใใจใใใใพใ。็ดๆฅ็ใชไบคๆตใฏๆธใใพใใใ、่ฆชไบคใฏ็ถใใฆใใพใใญ。
์์ ์ฒ๋ผ ์์ฃผ ํ์ง๋ ๋ชปํ์ง๋ง, ํด์ธ์์ ์น๊ตฌ๋ค์ด ์ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ๋ ๊ฐ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ํ๊ตญ์์ ์ด๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ ์์ ๋ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ๋ ํด์. ์ง์ ์ ์ธ ๊ต๋ฅ๋ ์ ์ด์ก์ง๋ง, ์น๋ถ์ ์ด์ด๊ฐ๋ ์ ๋๋ก ๊พธ์คํ ์ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค.
Q
You stick to a traditional style like old-school, but do you also try to incorporate newly released inks, machines, or other technologies?
ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฎใใใชไผ็ตฑ็ใชในใฟใคใซใ่ฒซใใฆใใไธๆนใง、ๆฐใใๅบใฆใใใคใณใฏใใใทใณใชใฉใฎๆ่กใๅใๅ
ฅใใใใจใใฆใใพใใ?
์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ์ฒ๋ผ ์ ํต์ ์ธ ์คํ์ผ์ ๊ณ ์งํ๋ฉด์๋, ์๋ก ๋์จ ์ํฌ๋ ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ, ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ ๋ชฉํ๋ ค ๋
ธ๋ ฅํ์๋์?
A
These days, there are a lot of new technologies in the tattoo scene, and various new inks appear on the market. However, I’ve been using a coil machine for a long time. I’m used to its distinctive weight, vibration, and the way the needle hits the skin, so personally, I haven’t found anything that feels ‘better’ than that. The newer gear definitely offers convenience, but the coil machine, which I’ve used for years, actually feels the most comfortable to me.
Old-school tattoos emphasize traditional lines, shading, and color. A coil machine’s heavier line quality and the classic ‘pepper shading’ effect are crucial to achieving that authentic look. Unlike pen-style or rotary machines, coil machines can produce a certain ruggedness in each needle mark, and I believe that sets old-school tattoos apart. The top old-school artists around the world still insist on using coil machines, seeing it as a vital aspect of preserving the style’s essence. That’s why I stick to the classic machines. However, when it comes to inks, I do experiment with new products if they claim better color or durability.
In terms of design, I usually rely on traditional old-school motifs, but occasionally I introduce new ideas or combine them with other styles to reinterpret them in my own way. The key is to keep the classic charm of old-school but also allow for modern adaptations. Ultimately, I aim to balance tradition with new technology, all while maintaining the style and flair I believe in.
ๆ่ฟใฎใฟใใฅใผใทใผใณใงใฏ、ๆฐใใใใฏใใญใธใผใใคใณใฏใๆฌกใ
ใจ็ปๅ ดใใฆใใพใ。ใใใ、็ง่ช่บซใฏ้ทใ้ใณใคใซใใทใณใไฝฟใฃใฆใใฆ、ใใฎ็ฌ็นใฎ้ใใๆฏๅ、้ใ็ฎ่ใซๅ
ฅใๆ่งฆใซๆ
ฃใใฆใใใฎใง、「ใใไปฅไธใซใใ」ใจๆใใใใไปฃๆฟๅใใพใ ่ฆใคใใฆใใพใใ。ๆฐใใใใทใณใฏ็ขบใใซไพฟๅฉใซใชใฃใฆใใพใใ、้ทๅนดไฝฟใ่พผใใงใใใณใคใซใใทใณใ็งใซใฏไธ็ชใใฃใใใใใใงใ。
ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใงใฏ、ไผ็ตฑ็ใชใฉใคใณใใทใงใผใใฃใณใฐ、่ฒไฝฟใใ้่ฆ่ฆใใใพใ。ใณใคใซใใทใณใชใใงใฏใฎ、ใฉใฃใใใจใใใฉใคใณใจ ‘ใใใใผใทใงใผใใฃใณใฐ’ ใจๅผใฐใใใฏใฉใทใซใซใชๆฟๆทก่กจ็พใ、ใใฎในใฟใคใซใๆ็ซใใใไธใงๆฌ ใใใพใใ。ใใณๅใใญใผใฟใชใผใฟใคใใฎใใทใณใฎใใใซๅไธใซใชใใใใ、้ใฎ็ใซใฟใใชๅณใใใๆฎใใใใจใ、ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใใใใๅผใ็ซใฆใใจๆใใพใ。ไธ็ไธญใฎใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใๆฅตใใใขใผใใฃในใใใกใฏ、ใณใคใซใใทใณใไฝฟใ็ถใใไบบใๅคใใงใใญ。ใใใ ใ้่ฆใช่ฆ็ด ใ ใจใใใใจใงใ。ใงใใฎใง、ใใทใณใซ้ขใใฆใฏๅพๆฅใฎใใฎใไฝฟใ็ถใใๆดพใงใใญ。
ไธๆนใงใคใณใฏใฏ、ๆฐใใใซใฉใผใ็บ่ฒใฎ่ฏใใชใฉใใใใ่ฃฝๅใๅบใฆใใใ่ฉฆใใใจใใใใพใ。ใใถใคใณ้ขใงใฏ、ๅบๆฌ็ใซใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฎไผ็ตฑ็ใชใขใใผใใไฝฟใใชใใ、ๆใ
ๆฐใใใขใคใใขใๅ
ฅใใใ、ไปใฎในใฟใคใซใๅฐใๆททใใฆ่ชๅใชใใซๅ่งฃ้ใใใใจใใใใพใ。ใฏใฉใทใใฏใช้ญ
ๅใใใผในใซใใคใค、็พไปฃ็ใช่ฆ็ด ใจใใพใ่ชฟๅใใใใใใงใ。่ฆใใใซ、ไผ็ตฑใจๆฐใใๆ่กใฎ้ทๆใใใพใๆดปใใใชใใ、่ชๅใฎๅคงไบใซใใฆใใในใฟใคใซใจๆ่ฆใไฟใคใฎใๆ็ต็ใช็ฎๆจใงใใญ。
์ฌ์ค ์์ฆ์ ํํฌ ์ฌ์์๋ ๋ค์ํ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ค์ด ๊ณ์ ๋์ค๊ณ , ์ํฌ ์ญ์ ์ ์ ํ๋ค์ด ๋ง์ด ์ถ์๋๊ณ ์์ด์. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ์๋ ์ฝ์ผ ๋จธ์ ์ ์ค๋ ์จ ์๊ณ , ๊ทธ ํน์ ์ ๋ฌด๊ฒ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์ง๋, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ฐ๋์ด ํผ๋ถ์ ๊ฝํ๋ ๊ฐ๊ฐ๊น์ง ์ด๋ฏธ ์์ ์ต์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ๊ฐ์ธ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ์ด๊ฒ๋ณด๋ค ‘๋ ์ข๋ค’๊ณ ๋๋ ๋งํ ๋์ฒดํ์ ์์ง ๋ชป ์ฐพ์์ด์. ์๋ก ๋์จ ์ฅ๋น๋ค์ด ํ์คํ ํธ๋ฆฌ์ฑ์ ๊ฐ์ถ ๊ฑด ๋ง๋๋ฐ, ์ ๋ ์ค๋ ์๊ฐ ๋์ ์ฝ์ผ ๋จธ์ ๋ง ์จ ์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์คํ๋ ค ๊ทธ ํธ์ํจ์ด ์ ์๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ๊ฐ์ ์ด ๋๊ณ ์์ด์.
์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ๋ ์ ํต์ ์ธ ๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ ์์ด๋ฉ, ์๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฒ ์ค์ํ๋ฐ, ์ฝ์ผ ๋จธ์ ์ด ์ฃผ๋ ๋ฌต์งํ ์ ๊ณผ ํํผ ์์ด๋ฉ์ด๋ผ๋ ๋ช ์์ ํํํ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ฒ์์ ์ฝ์ผ ๋จธ์ ๋ง์ด ์ค ์ ์๋ ๋ฐ๋ ์๊ตญ์ด ์์ด์. ํฌ๋จธ์ ์ฒ๋ผ ๊ท ์ผํ ํจํด์ด ์๋ ํฐํํจ์ ์ค ์ ์์ด์ผ ํด์, ์ธ๊ณ์์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์ ๋๋ก ๋ง์ ๋ด๋ ์์ ์๋ค์ ๋ชจ๋ ์ฝ์ผ ๋จธ์ ๋ง์ ๊ณ ์งํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฐ ์ฐจ๋ณ์ ์ค ์ ์๋ ๋งค์ฐ ์ค์ํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํด์. ๊ทธ๋์ ๋จธ์ ๋งํผ์ ์์ ๋ถํฐ ์จ์ค๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ ๊ณ ์งํ๋ ํธ์ด์ฃ . ๋์ ์ํฌ ๋ถ๋ถ์์๋ ์ข ์์ ๋กญ๊ฒ ์๋ํ๋ ํธ์ด์์. ๋ฐ์์ด๋ ์ง์๋ ฅ์ด ์ข์์ก๋ค๋ ์ ์ ํ์ด ๋์ค๋ฉด ํ ๋ฒ์ฉ ์จ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ณ .. ๋์์ธ ๋ฉด์์๋ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ํต์ ์ธ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ๋์๋ค์ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ์ผ๋ก ํ์ง๋ง, ๊ฐ๋ ์๋ก์ด ์์ด๋์ด๊ฐ ์๊ธฐ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์ด์ง ๋ณํํ๊ฑฐ๋, ๋ค๋ฅธ ์คํ์ผ ์์๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ฏธํด์ ์ ์์ผ๋ก ์ฌํด์ํด ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ ํด์. ์๋ฌด๋๋ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ์ด ๊ฐ์ง ํด๋์ํ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ค์ฌ์ ๋๋, ์์ฆ ์๋์ ๋ง์ถฐ ์กฐํ๋กญ๊ฒ ๋ณ์ฃผํ ์ ์๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ์ด์ด ๋๋ ํธ์ด์ฃ . ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ ์ผ๋ก๋ ์ ์ฒด์ ์ธ ํํฌ ์์ ์์ ์ ํต์ฑ๊ณผ ์ ๊ธฐ์ ๋ชจ๋์ ์ฅ์ ์ ์ด๋ฆฌ๋, ์ ๊ฐ ์ค์ํ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๋ ์คํ์ผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์ ์ ์งํ๋ ๊ฒ ํต์ฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค.
Q
Do you have any advice or essential tips for people who aspire to become tattoo artists?
ใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใ็ฎๆใไบบใ
ใซๅฏพใใฆ、ไฝใใขใใใคในใ็ตถๅฏพใซๅคใใชใใใคใณใใฏใใใพใใ?
ํํฌ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ฅผ ๊ฟ๊พธ๋ ์ด๋ค์๊ฒ ํด์ฃผ๊ณ ์ถ์ ์กฐ์ธ์ด๋, ์ ๋ ๋์น๋ฉด ์ ๋ ํต์ฌ ํ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์์ผ๊น์?
A
It’s more about having a clear direction than a specific ‘tip.’ Don’t rush to show off results too quickly. Instead, take your time to build skill, study thoroughly, and find your own style. If you’re too eager to display your work before you’re ready, you might end up with shallow results.
ใใใฏ「ใใฏใใใฏ」ใจใใใใใฏ、ใพใๆ็ขบใชๆนๅๆงใๆใคใใจใๅคงๅใ ใจๆใใพใ。ๆฉใๆๆใ่ฆใใใใจ็ฆใใใฎใงใฏใชใ、ใใฃใใใจๅฎๅใ็ฃจใใฆ็ ็ฉถใ、่ชๅใชใใงใฏใฎในใฟใคใซใ่ฆใคใใฆใปใใใงใใญ。ๆบๅใๆดใๅใซไบบใซ่ฆใใใใจใใใจ、ใฉใใใฆใๆต
ใๆฎต้ใง็ตใใฃใฆใใพใๅฏ่ฝๆงใ้ซใใงใ。
์ผ๋จ์ ๋ญ ํ๋ผ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค๋ ์ผ๋จ ๋ฐฉํฅ์ฑ์ ๋ถ๋ช
ํ ์ก๊ณ ์์ํด์ผ ํด์. ๋๋ฌด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฌผ์ ๋ด๊ณ ์ถ์ด ์กฐ๊ธํดํ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค๋, ์ฐจ๊ทผ์ฐจ๊ทผ ์ค๋ ฅ์ ์๊ณ ๊ณต๋ถํ๋ฉด์ ์๊ธฐ๋ง์ ์คํ์ผ์ ์ฐพ์๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒ ์ค์ํ์ฃ . ์กฐ๊ธํ๊ฒ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ ํ๋ฉด, ๊น์ด ์์ด ๋๋ ์ ์์ด์.
Q
Have you ever collaborated with or interacted with overseas tattoo artists? If so, what differences did you notice, and what did you learn from them?
ๆตทๅคใฎใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใจใณใฉใใไบคๆตใใใใใจใฏใใใพใใ? ใใใใใฐ、ใฉใใช้ใใใใ、ใใใใใฉใใชๅญฆใณใๅพใใๆใใฆใใ ใใ。
ํด์ธ ํํฌ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค๊ณผ๋ ๊ต๋ฅํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ฝ๋ผ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์งํํ์ ์ ์ด ์๋์? ๋ง์ฝ ์๋ค๋ฉด ์ด๋ค ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ด๋ ๋ฐฐ์์ ๋๋ผ์
จ๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค.
A
The biggest difference I felt while interacting with overseas tattoo artists is the sheer amount of time and energy they devote to their craft. Many of them tattoo all day and then go home to paint large canvases or sketch new designs. Their entire day revolves around tattoo art. They say that’s what’s necessary to stay competitive. As a result, their skills improve quickly, and they earn respect and recognition from others in the industry.
In Korea, the culture hasn’t been around as long, so the environment and work ethic tend to be a bit more relaxed. Of course, not everyone is like that, but it’s less common to see people spending every single day drawing or researching. Sometimes they rely on quick digital sketches, or spend their free time on other social activities rather than honing their art. From these overseas experiences, I’ve learned that consistent practice and dedication truly shape one’s skill. Tattooing is a hand-crafted art form, so the more time and effort you invest, the deeper your artistic expression becomes.
ๆตทๅคใฎใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใจไบคๆตใใฆๆใใๅคงใใช้ใใฏ、ๅฝผใใไฝๅๅถไฝใจ็ทด็ฟใซๆณจใ่พผใๆ้ใจใจใใซใฎใผใฎ้ใงใใญ。ๅคใใฎๆตทๅคใขใผใใฃในใใฏ、ไธๆฅใซไฝไปถใใฎใฟใใฅใผใใใชใ、ๅฎถใซๅธฐใฃใฆใใใๅคงใใชใญใฃใณใในใซใใคใณใใฃใณใฐใใใใ、ๆฐใใใใถใคใณใในใฑใใใใใใจ、ไธๆฅไธญใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใซๆฒก้ ญใใ็ๆดปใ้ใฃใฆใใพใ。ใใใใชใใจ็ซถไบใซๅใฆใชใใจๅฝผใใ่จใฃใฆใใพใใ、ๅฎ้ใใใใฃใฆ้ไธญใใใใใใในใญใซใๆฉใไธ้ใ、ๆฅญ็ๅ
ใงใฎใชในใใฏใใ่ฉไพกใ้ซใพใฃใฆใใใใใซๆใใพใ。
ไธๆนใง、้ๅฝใงใฏใพใ ใฟใใฅใผๆๅใๆตธ้ใๅงใใฆ้ใใชใใใจใใใ、ไฝๆฅญในใฟใคใซใ้ฐๅฒๆฐใใใ็ทฉใใใช้ขใใใใจๆใใพใ。ใใกใใในใใคใใฏใซๆใก่พผใใงใใไบบใใใพใใ、ๆฏๆฅๆฌ ใใใ็ตตใๆใ็ถใใใใใไบบใฎๅฒๅใฏใพใ ไฝใใใใซๆใใพใ。ใจใใซใฏiPadใใใธใฟใซใใผใซใงใตใฏใใจในใฑใใใใฆๆธใพใใใ、ไฝๆฅญๅคใฎๆ้ใใ้
ใไปใฎๆดปๅใซไฝฟใใฑใผในใๅคใใงใใญ。ใใใใฃใ้ใใ่ใงๆใใฆ、「ใใฏใๅฐ้ใช็ทด็ฟใจใณใใณใใจใใๅชๅใใใๅฎๅใ็ฃจใ่ฟ้ใชใใ 」ใจๅ็ขบ่ชใใพใใ。ใฟใใฅใผใฏๆไฝๆฅญใฎใขใผใใชใฎใง、ๆ้ใจๅดๅใใใใใฐใใใใปใฉ、่กจ็พๅใๆทฑใพใใจใใๅฝ็ถใฎ็็ใๆนใใฆๆใใพใใ。
ํด์ธ ํํฌ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅํ๋ฉด์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ํฌ๊ฒ ๋๊ผ๋ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ “์์
๊ณผ ์ฐ์ต์ ํฌ์
ํ๋ ์๊ฐ๊ณผ ์๋์ง”์์ด์.
ํด์ธ ์๊ฐ๋ค์ ํ๋ฃจ์๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ ๊ฑด์ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์ํํ๊ณ , ์ง์ ๋์๊ฐ์๋ ํฐ ์ข
์ด์ ํ์ธํ
์ ํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ค์ผ์น๋ถ์ ๋์์ธ์ ๊ตฌ์ํ๋ ๋ฑ, ์จ์ข
์ผ ํํฌ ๊ด๋ จ ์์
์ ๋ชฐ์
ํด ์ฌ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ ํํ ๋ณผ ์ ์์์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ค์ “์ด ์ ๋๋ก ํ์ง ์์ผ๋ฉด ๊ฒฝ์์์ ์ด์๋จ๊ธฐ ์ด๋ ต๋ค”๊ณ ๋งํ๊ณค ํด์. ์ค์ ๋ก ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ‘๋ฏธ์ณค๋ค’ ์ถ์ ์ ๋๋ก ๋ชฐ์
ํ๊ธฐ์, ๋น ๋ฅธ ์๋๋ก ์ค๋ ฅ๋ ๋๊ณ , ์
๊ณ ๋๋ฃ๋ค์ ์กด์ค๊ณผ ๋ช
์ฑ๋ ์ป๊ฒ ๋ฉ๋๋ค.
๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ํ๊ตญ์ ์์ง ํํฌ ๋ฌธํ๊ฐ ์๋ฆฌ ์ก์ ์ง ์ค๋๋์ง ์์๊ณ , ์์ ๋ฐฉ์์ด๋ ๋ถ์๊ธฐ ๋ฉด์์ ์ข ๋ ๋์จํ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์๋ค๊ณ ๋๊ปด์ ธ์. ๋ฌผ๋ก ๋ชจ๋ ํ๊ตญ ํํฌ์ด์คํธ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ ๊ฑด ์๋์ง๋ง, ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ํด์ธ ์๊ฐ๋ค์ฒ๋ผ ๋งค์ผ๋งค์ผ ๋์์์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ฌธํ๊ฐ ํ๊ณ ํ ์๋ฆฌ ์ก์ง๋ ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์. ์์ดํจ๋๋ ๋์งํธ ํด๋ก ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ค์ผ์นํ๊ณ ๋๋ด๋ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ๊ฐ ๋ง๊ณ , ์์ ์ธ์ ์๊ฐ์ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ด๋ ์ฐ๊ตฌ์ ํฌ์ํ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค ์ ์๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ๋์ ์ฐ๋ ์ผ๋ ํํ์ฃ .
์ด๋ฐ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ํตํด ๋ฐฐ์ด ์ ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ “๊พธ์คํ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ์ฐ์ต์ด ์ง์ ํ ์ค๋ ฅ์ ๋ง๋ ๋ค”๋ ๋น์ฐํ ์ง๋ฆฌ์์. ํํฌ๋ผ๋ ๊ฒ ์์ผ๋ก ํ๋ ์์ ์ด๋ค ๋ณด๋, ์๊ฐ์ ๋ง์ด ์๊ณ ๋ค์ํ ์๋๋ฅผ ํ ์๋ก ํํ๋ ฅ์ด ๊น์ด์ง๊ณ , ์์ ์ ๋ํ ์์ ๊ฐ๋ ์ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ๊ฒ ๋ง๋ จ์ด์ฃ . ํด์ธ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค๊ณผ ํจ๊ป ์์ ํด ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ๋ฃจํ๋ฃจ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ค์๊ฒ ‘ํํฌ๋ฅผ ์ํ ๋ ’์ด๋ผ๋ ๋๋์ ๋ฐ๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ์ ์ญ์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ํ๋์์ ํฐ ์๊ทน์ ๋ฐ์๊ณ , ์ ์์ ์ ์ฐ์ต ๋ฃจํด์ด๋ ์์ ๋์ ๋ค์ ๋์๋ณด๊ฒ ๋์ต๋๋ค.
Q
You’ve openly expressed critical views on the Korean tattoo scene. Specifically, what aspects lead you to such criticism?
้ๅฝใฎใฟใใฅใผใทใผใณใซๅฏพใใฆ็็ดใชๆนๅค็ๆ่ฆใ่ฟฐในใใใฆใใพใใใ、ๅ
ทไฝ็ใซใฉใฎใใใช็นใซๅฏพใใฆๆนๅค็ใซๆใใฆใใใฎใงใใใใ?
๊ทธ๊ฐ ํ๊ตญ ํํฌ ์ฌ์ ๋ํด ๋นํ์ ์ค์ค๋ผ ์์ด ๋๋ฌ๋ด์
จ๋๋ฐ, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ค ๋ถ๋ถ์์ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋นํ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ณด์๊ฒ ๋์๋์ง ๊ถ๊ธํฉ๋๋ค.
A
I believe that any scene needs constructive criticism to correct what’s wrong. I’m careful not to turn criticism into mere fault-finding, so I speak based on what I’ve directly experienced and observed. Having interacted with various artists, including those abroad, I’ve seen people who devote almost their entire lives to tattooing—tirelessly practicing, painting, and accumulating 10, 20, or even 30 years of experience. Naturally, in such an environment, their skills and techniques grow.
In Korea, I feel there aren’t many people who have built a deep, longstanding culture of immersion in tattoo art. Of course, there are dedicated artists, but it seems relatively rare to find individuals who truly love the culture and strive to lead it forward. There’s a tendency to opt for faster, more convenient methods rather than investing huge amounts of time and setting strict personal standards. As a result, you can see a significant gap in skill and experience compared to some overseas scenes.
Still, over time, Korea is gradually becoming more specialized, and talented artists are emerging. But it seems to remain a niche, limited to a smaller circle. I’m not criticizing for the sake of criticizing—I see it more as a realistic piece of advice: ‘If we want to deepen and evolve this culture, we need more passion and sustained effort.’
ใฉใใชใทใผใณใงใใ、้้ใฃใ้จๅใๆญฃใใใใซใฏๅปบ่จญ็ใชๆนๅคใๅฟ
่ฆใ ใจๆใฃใฆใใพใ。ใใ ใฎๆชๅฃใซใชใใชใใใๆฐใใคใใฆใฏใใพใใ、็งใใใใพใง็ดๆฅ่ฆใฆใใ็พๅฎใ็็ดใซ่ชใฃใฆใใใ ใใชใใงใ。ๆตทๅคใๅซใใใใใชใขใผใใฃในใใจไบคๆตใใฆใใใจ、ไบบ็ใฎใปใจใใฉใใฟใใฅใผใซๆงใใฆใใใใใชไบบใใกใซใๅบไผใใพใ。ๅฝผใใฏไผใใใจใชใ็ทด็ฟใๅถไฝใซๅใ็ตใใง、10ๅนด、20ๅนด、30ๅนดใจใใใญใฃใชใขใ็ฉใฟไธใใชใใๆ่กใไผธใฐใใฆใใใใงใใใญ。
ไธๆน、้ๅฝใงใฏใพใ ใใใพใงๆทฑใ้ทๅนดใซใใใฃใฆๆใก่พผใใงใใไบบใฏๆฏ่ผ็ๅฐใชใใจๆใใพใ。ใใกใใไธ็ๆธๅฝๅใ็ตใใขใผใใฃในใใใใพใใ、「ใฟใใฅใผๆๅใๆทฑใๆฅฝใใฟ、็ฉๆฅต็ใซ็ฝๅผใใใ」ใจใใไบบใฏใพใ ๅฐๆฐใ ใจใใๅฐ่ฑกใงใ。่จๅคงใชๆ้ใจๅณใใๅบๆบใ่ชใใซ่ชฒใใใใ、ๆๆฉใ็ฐกๅใชๆนๆณใ้ธใณใใกใชๅพๅใใใใจ่จใใ。ใใฎใใใงๆตทๅคใจๆฏในใใจใใซๆ่กใ็ต้จใฎๅทฎใใใชใๅคงใใๅ ด้ขใ่ฆๅใใใใพใ。
ใจใฏใใ、ๆใ็ตใคใซใคใใฆ้ๅฝใฎใทใผใณใๅฐใใใคๅฐ้ๆงใๅขใ、ๅชใใไฝๅใไฝใใขใผใใฃในใใๅขใใฆใใพใ。ใใ 、็งใฎ่ฆใ้ใใงใฏใพใ ใพใ ้ใใใไธ้จใฎไบบใใกใฎไธญใซ็ใพใฃใฆใใฆ、ใทใผใณๅ
จไฝใซๆตธ้ใใฆใใใใใงใฏใชใๆใใงใใญ。ๅใซๆนๅคใใใใใใงใฏใชใ、ใใฎๆๅใใใฃใจๆทฑใ、็บๅฑใใใใซใฏใใๅคใใฎๆ
็ฑใจ็ถ็ถ็ใชๅชๅใๅฟ
่ฆใชใใ 、ใจใใ็พๅฎ็ใชใขใใใคในใ ใจๆใฃใฆใใใ ใใใฐๅฌใใใงใ。
์ ๋ ์ด๋ค ์ฌ์ด๋ ๋นํ์ด ์์ด๋ ์๋ชป๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ฐ๋ก ์ก์ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค. ๋นํ์ด ๋น๋์ด ๋์ด์ ์๋๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ธ์ ๋ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํ๊ณ , ์ ๊ฐ ์ง์ ๊ฒฝํํ๊ณ ๋๋ ํ์ค์ ์๋ ๊ทธ๋๋ก ์ด์ผ๊ธฐํ๋ ๊ฑฐ์์. ํด์ธ๋ฅผ ํฌํจํด ๋ค์ํ ์ํฐ์คํธ์ ๊ต๋ฅํ๋ค ๋ณด๋, ํ๋ฃจ ๋๋ถ๋ถ์ ์์
๊ณผ ์ฐ์ต์ ํฌ์ํ๋ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ ์์ฃผ ๋ดค๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ๊ทธ๋ค์ ํํฌ์์
์ ํ๊ณ ์ง์ ๋์๊ฐ์๋ ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋ฉด์ 10๋
, 20๋
, 30๋
์ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์ ์์ ์ค๋ก์ง ํํฌ์ ํจ๊ป ์ด์๊ฐ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ ๋ณด์ฌ ์คฌ์ด์. ๊ทธ๋ฐ ํ๊ฒฝ์์ ํ์ด๋ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค์ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ๊ธฐ์ ๊ณผ ์ค๋ ฅ์ด ๊ณ์ ๋ฐ์ ํ ์๋ฐ์ ์์ด์.
๋ฐ๋ฉด์ ํ๊ตญ์์๋ ์์ง ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋ฌธํ๋ฅผ ๊น์ด ์๊ฒ ๊ตฌ์ถํ๊ฑฐ๋, ์ค๋ ์๊ฐ ๋์ ๋ชฐ์ ํด ์จ ์ฌ๋์ด ์๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ ์ ํธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋๋๋๋ค. ๋น์ฐํ ์ด์ฌํ ํ๋ ๋ถ๋ค๋ ๊ณ์์ง๋ง, '์ง์ง ํํฌ ๋ฌธํ๋ฅผ ๊น์ด ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ , ์ฃผ๋์ ์ผ๋ก ์ด๋์ด ๋๊ฐ๋ ค๊ณ ํ๋ ์ฌ๋๋ค'์ด ๋๋ฌผ๋ค๋ ์๊ฐ์ด ๋๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋์ ์ค์ค๋ก ์๊ฒฉํ ๊ธฐ์ค์ ์ธ์ ๋ง์ ์๊ฐ์ ํฌ์ํ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค๋, ๋น๊ต์ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ณ ํธํ ๋ฐฉ์์ ์ฐพ์๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒฝํฅ์ด ์์ง์ ๋ ๋ง๋ค๊ณ ๋ด์. ์ด๋ ๋ค ๋ณด๋ ํด์ธ์ ๋น๊ตํ์ ๋ ์ค๋ ฅ ์ฐจ์ด๋ ๊ฒฝํ์ ๊น์ด๊ฐ ์๋นํ ๋ฒ์ด์ง๊ธฐ๋ ํด์.
๋ฌผ๋ก ์๊ฐ์ด ์ง๋๋ฉด์ ํ๊ตญ๋ ์ ์ ๋ ์ ๋ฌธํ๋๊ณ ์๊ณ , ๋ฐ์ด๋ ์ํ์ ํ๋ ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ค๋ ์๊ฒจ๋๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค. ๋ค๋ง ์ ๊ฐ ๋๋ผ๊ธฐ์ ์์ง์ ๊ทธ ๊ท๋ชจ๋ ๋ถ์๊ธฐ๊ฐ '์ผ๋ถ ์์'์ ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅด๋ ์ํฉ์ด๊ณ , ์ผ๋ฐ์ ์ธ ํํฌ์ฌ ์ ๋ฐ์ ํผ์ง ๋ฌธํ๋ผ๊ณ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ ์ด๋ ค์์. ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๊ณ ๋ฌด์กฐ๊ฑด ๋นํ๋ง ํ๋ ๊ฑด ์๋๊ณ , '์ด ๋ฌธํ๋ฅผ ๊น์ด ์๊ฒ ์ ์ง, ๋ฐ์ ์ํค๋ ค๋ฉด ๋ ๋ง์ ์ด์ ๊ณผ ๊พธ์คํ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ์ด ํ์ํ๋ค'๋ผ๋ ํ์ค์ ์ธ ์กฐ์ธ์ ๊ฐ๊น๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํด ์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
Q
You primarily work in the old-school style, but do you have any plans to explore other styles or new forms of art, like painting or graphic art?
็พๅจใฏไธปใซใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซในใฟใคใซใซๅใ็ตใพใใฆใใพใใ、ใใคใณใใฃใณใฐใใฐใฉใใฃใใฏใขใผใใชใฉ、ไปใฎในใฟใคใซใๆฐใใช่กจ็พๆนๆณใ่ฉฆใไบๅฎใฏใใใพใใ?
ํ์ฌ ์ฃผ๋ก ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ์คํ์ผ์ ํ์์ง๋ง, ๋ค๋ฅธ ์คํ์ผ์ด๋ ์๋ก์ด ์์ ํํ(์: ํ์ธํ
, ๊ทธ๋ํฝ ์ํธ)์ ๋ํ ๊ณํ์ด ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์?
A
I do try out various things, like painting on canvas or combining tattoo and graffiti elements in my artwork whenever I have time. For example, I sometimes paint Eastern motifs on Korean mulberry paper using black ink or brush techniques, then incorporate elements from American-style tattoos, such as Black Panther heads or leopard patterns. Because I’m Korean, I’d like to naturally express my Eastern identity while blending it with the bold lines and colors of old-school tattoos.
I’ve also experimented with placing paper on live trees or rocks to capture different textures. It’s like ‘engraving,’ using charcoal or pastels to create unpredictable shapes. Then I overlay imagery reminiscent of Eastern painting with American panther motifs. I enjoy exploring where East meets West, or where graffiti meets tattoo, in various media.
็งใฎๅ ดๅ、ๆ้ใใใใฐใญใฃใณใในใซๆใใฆใฟใใ、ใฟใใฅใผใจใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใฎ่ฆ็ด ใใใใฏในใใไฝๅใๅฐใใใค่ฉฆใใฆใใพใ。ใใจใใฐ、้ๅฝใฎไผ็ตฑ็ใช็ด(ใใกใฝใณใธ)ใซๅขจใ็ญใไฝฟใฃใฆๆฑๆด็ใชใคใกใผใธใๆใ、ใใใซใขใกใชใซใณใฟใใฅใผใฎ่ฆ็ด 、ไพใใฐใใฉใใฏใใณใตใผใฎ้ ญใใใงใฆๆใชใฉใ็ตใฟๅใใใใใจใใใใพใ。็งใฏ้ๅฝไบบใชใฎใง、่ช็ถใซๆปฒใฟๅบใๆฑๆดใฎใขใคใใณใใฃใใฃใจ、ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผ็นๆใฎๅๅผทใใฉใคใณใใซใฉใผใใฉใ่ชฟๅใใใใใๅฎ้จใใฆใใใใงใ。
ใพใ、็ใใฆใใๆจใๅฒฉใฎไธใซ็ดใ่ฒผใฃใฆ่ณชๆใฎ้ใใๅใ่พผใใใใชๆๆณใ่ฉฆใใฆใฟใพใใ。ๆจ็ญใใในใใซใงๆฆใใคใใใใใซๆใใฆใใใจ、ไบๆธฌไธ่ฝใชๅฝขใๆตฎใใณไธใใใใงใใใญ。ใใใซๆฑๆด็ปใฎๆๆณใจใขใกใชใซใฎใใณใตใผใๅใใใใใจใง、ๆงใ
ใชใกใใฃใขใงๆฑๆดใจ่ฅฟๆด、ใใใใฏใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใจใฟใใฅใผใๅบไผใใใคใณใใๆขใใฎใใใใ้ข็ฝใใงใ。
์ฌ์ค ์ ๋ ์๊ฐ์ด ๋ ๋๋ง๋ค ์บ๋ฒ์ค ์์
์ด๋ ํํฌ์ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ๋๋์ ๋ํ ํ์ธํ
์ ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ์๋ํ๊ณ ์์ด์. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ํ์ ์ง์ ๊ฒ์ ์ํฌ๋ ๋จน๋ฌผ ๋ฑ์ ์ฌ์ฉํด ๋์์ ์ธ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ค ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์์ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ํํฌ ์คํ์ผ์ ์์, ์๋ฅผ ๋ค๋ฉด ๋ธ๋ํ์์ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ๋ฒ๋ฌด๋ฌ๋ฑ์ ๊ฒฐํฉํด ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๋ ํ๊ตญ์ธ์ด๋๊น, ์ ๊ฒ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฝ๊ฒ ๋ฐฐ์ด ์๋ ๋์์ ์ธ ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ ๋๋ฌ๋ด๋ ๋์์ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ ํน์ ์ ๊ฐ๋ ฌํ ์๊ฐ์ด๋ ๋ผ์ธ๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ด์ฐ๋ฅผ ์ ์์์ง ์คํํด ๋ณด๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
๋, ์ด์ ์๋ ๋๋ฌด๋ ๋ฐ์์ ์ข ์ด๋ฅผ ์ฌ๋ ค ๋๋ฌด ๋ง๋ค ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ง๊ฐ์ ์ด๋ฆฌ๋ ์๋๋ ํ๊ณ ์์ด์. ์ผ์ข ์ ‘๊ฐ์ธ’ํ๋ฏ์ด ํํํ๋ ๋ฐฉ์์ธ๋ฐ, ๋ชฉํ์ด๋ ํ์คํ ๋ก ๋ฌธ์ง๋ฅด๋ค ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ข ์ด ์๋ก ์์ธก ํ ์ ์๋ ํ์์ด ์ฌ๋ผ์ ๋์ํ ๊ธฐ๋ฒ์ ์๋ฉ๋ฆฌ์นธ ํ์์ ๋ฌธ์์ ๋ด๋ ์์ ์ผ๋ก ๋ค์ํ ๋งค์ฒด์์ ๋์๊ณผ ์์, ํน์ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ์ ํํฌ๊ฐ ๋ง๋๋ ์ง์ ์ ์ฐพ์๋ณด๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์ ์๊ฒ๋ ํฐ ์ฌ๋ฏธ์์
Q
What do you think is the defining feature or ‘signature’ of Mister Lee’s work? In terms of flash designs, what do you value most?
ใใชใ่ช่บซใฎไฝๅใซใใใ ‘Mister Leeใชใใงใฏ’ ใฎ็นๅพดใใทใฐใใใฃใผใจใฏไฝใ ใจ่ใใฆใใพใใ? ใใฉใใทใฅใใถใคใณใซใใใฆ、็นใซๅคงๅใซใใฆใใใใคใณใใใใใฐๆใใฆใใ ใใ。
‘๋ฏธ์คํฐ ๋ฆฌ’๋ง์ ์๊ทธ๋์ฒ๋ผ๊ณ ํ ๋งํ ํน์ง์ ๋ฌด์์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์๋์? ๋์(ํ๋์ฌ)์์ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค์ํ๊ฒ ์ฌ๊ธฐ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ ๋ง์ํด ์ฃผ์ธ์.
A
I still think I’m in the process of developing my own signature style. I want to dig deeper into the essence and history of old-school tattoos, gradually infusing my own personality.
่ชๅ็ฌ่ชใฎใทใฐใใใฃใผในใฟใคใซใฏ、ใพใ ๆจก็ดขไธญใ ใจๆใฃใฆใใพใ。ใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฎๆฌ่ณชใๆญดๅฒใใใใซๆทฑใๆใไธใใชใใ、ๅฐใใใค่ชๅใฎๅๆงใ็นใไบคใใฆใใใใใใงใ。
์์ง๋ ์ ๋ง์ ์๊ทธ๋์ฒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋ฐํ๋ ์ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํด์. ๋ ๋ณธ์ง์ ์ธ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ์คํ์ผ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์ญ์ฌ๋ฅผ ๊น์ด ํํค์น๋ฉด์, ์ฐจ์ธฐ์ฐจ์ธฐ ์ ๊ฐ์ฑ์ ๋
น์ฌ๋ด๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค.
Q
Some people see tattoos merely as decoration or fashion. From your perspective as a tattooist, what do you think about the artistic value of tattoos?
ใฟใใฅใผใๅใชใ่ฃ
้ฃพใใใกใใทใงใณใจใใฆ่ฆใไบบใใใพใใ、ใฟใใฅใผใขใผใใฃในใใฎ็ซๅ ดใใ、ใฟใใฅใผใๆใค่ธ่ก็ไพกๅคใซใคใใฆใฏใฉใฎใใใซใ่ใใงใใ?
์ฌ๋๋ค์ ๋๋๋ก ํํฌ๋ฅผ ๋จ์ํ ์ฅ์์ด๊ฑฐ๋ ํจ์
์ผ๋ก ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค. ํํฌ์ด์คํธ ์
์ฅ์์ ํํฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง ์์ ์ ๊ฐ์น๋ ๋ฌด์์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์๊ฐํ์๋์?
A
If the piece has enough ‘quality,’ I believe it inherently carries artistic value. If someone gets it just for decoration, it might remain purely decorative. But a tattoo imbued with a high level of craftsmanship and artistic intent certainly holds meaning as a work of art.
ไฝๅใจใใฆใฎ ‘ใฏใชใชใใฃ’ ใใใฃใใใใใฐ、ใใ่ชไฝใซ่ธ่ก็ไพกๅคใฏ็ใพใใใจ่ใใฆใใพใ。ๅใชใ่ฃ
้ฃพ็ฎ็ใงๅ
ฅใใๅ ดๅใฏ、ใใกใใ่ฃ
้ฃพใฎ็ฏๅฒใซ็ใพใใใใใใพใใใ、้ซๅบฆใชๆ่กใจ่ธ่ก็ๆๅณใ่พผใใใฟใใฅใผใงใใใฐ、ใขใผใไฝๅใจใใฆใฎๆๅณใๅๅใซๆใคใจๆใใพใ。
์์
๋ฌผ์ ‘ํ๋ฆฌํฐ’๊ฐ ์ถฉ๋ถํ๋ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒ ์์ฒด๋ก ์์ ์ ๊ฐ์น๊ฐ ์๊ธด๋ค๊ณ ๋ด์. ๋จ์ ์ฅ์์ฉ์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ๋๋ค๋ฉด ์ฅ์์ ๊ทธ์น ์ ์์ง๋ง, ์์ฑ๋์ ์์ ์ ์๋๋ฅผ ๋ด์๋ธ ํํฌ๋ผ๋ฉด ๋น์ฐํ ์์ ์ํ์ผ๋ก์์ ์๋ฏธ๊ฐ ์์ฃ .
Q
What do you think you’ll be doing in 10 years? Are you considering retirement or perhaps expanding into other forms of art or business?
10ๅนดๅพ、ใฉใฎใใใชๅงฟใงๆดปๅใใฆใใใจๆใใพใใ? ๅผ้ใฎ่ใใ、ไปใฎๅฝขๆ
ใฎใขใผใใใใธใในใธใฎๅฑ้ใชใฉ、ไฝใใ่ใใฏใใใพใใ?
์์ผ๋ก 10๋
๋ค, ์ด๋ค ๋ชจ์ต์ผ๋ก ํ๋ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ค ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋์? ํน์ ์ํด ๊ณํ์ด๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํํ์ ์์ /๋น์ฆ๋์ค๋ก ํ์ฅํ ์๊ฐ๋ ์์ผ์ ๊ฐ์?
A
I haven’t really thought about retiring anytime soon. I’ll probably still be focusing on tattooing in 10 years, just like now, occasionally doing graffiti and art projects alongside it. I’ve built a lot of experience and connections over the years, so it feels natural to continue with the old-school tattoo scene and the graffiti scene I love. Of course, if the opportunity arises, I might explore other art fields or businesses, but for now, I want to delve deeper into what I’m already doing and gradually refine my style.
ไปใฎใจใใๅผ้ใซใคใใฆใฏ็นใซ่ใใฆใใพใใ。ใใถใ10ๅนดๅพใใฟใใฅใผใไธญๅฟใซๆดปๅใใชใใ、ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใใขใผใใฏใผใฏใๆใ
ไธฆ่กใใฆใใฃใฆใใใจๆใใพใ。้ทๅนดๅนใฃใฆใใๆ่ฆใใใใใฏใผใฏใใใใฎใง、่ชๅใฎๅฅฝใใชใชใผใซใในใฏใผใซใฟใใฅใผใใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใฎใทใผใณใ็ถใใฆใใใฎใ่ช็ถใชๆตใใ ใจๆใใใใงใ。ใใกใใใใฃใณในใใใใฐไปใฎใขใผใใธใฃใณใซใใใธใในใซๆๆฆใใใใจใ้ข็ฝใใงใใ、ใพใใฏไปใใฃใฆใใใใจใใใใซๆใไธใใฆ、ๅพใ
ใซ่ชๅใฎในใฟใคใซใๆ็ใใใฆใใใใใงใใญ。
๋น์ฅ ์ํด๋ฅผ ์๊ฐํด ๋ณธ ์ ์ ์๊ณ , ์๋ง 10๋
๋ค์๋ ํํฌ ์์
์ ์ค์ฌ์ผ๋ก ๊พธ์คํ ํ๋ํ๊ณ ์์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์. ์ง๊ธ์ฒ๋ผ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ๋ ๊ฐ๋ ํ๊ณ , ์ํธ ์์
๋ ๋ณํํ๋ฉด์์. ์๋ฌด๋๋ ์ค๋ซ๋์ ์์ ์จ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์ด๋ ๋คํธ์ํฌ๊ฐ ์์ผ๋, ์ ๊ฐ ์ข์ํ๋ ์ฌ๋์ค์ฟจ ํํฌ์ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ ์ ๊ณ์ ์ด์ด ๊ฐ๋ ๊ฒ ์์ฐ์ค๋ฝ๋ค๊ณ ๋ด์. ๋ฌผ๋ก ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ๋๋ค๋ฉด, ๋ค๋ฅธ ์์ ์ฅ๋ฅด๋ ์ฌ์
์ชฝ์ผ๋ก ํ์ฅํด ๋ณด๋ ๊ฒ๋ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒ ์ฃ . ํ์ง๋ง ํ์ฌ๋ก์๋ ์ ๊ฐ ํ๊ณ ์๋ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์ข ๋ ๊น์ด ์๊ฒ ํ๊ณ ๋ค๊ณ , ์ฐจ์ธฐ ์ ์คํ์ผ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ํค๋ ๋ฐ ์ง์คํ๊ณ ์ถ์ต๋๋ค.
Q
Lastly, as we wrap up the interview, is there anything you’d like to say to the tattoo scene, graffiti scene, or the general public?
ๆๅพใซ、ใคใณใฟใใฅใผใ็ท ใใใใใซใใใฃใฆ、ใฟใใฅใผใทใผใณใใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใทใผใณ、ใใใใฏไธ่ฌใฎๆนใ
ใซๅใใฆไผใใใใใจใใใใฐ、่ช็ฑใซใ้กใใใใใพใ。
์ธํฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋ง์น๋ฉฐ, ํํฌ์ฌ์ด๋ ๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ์ฌ, ํน์ ๋์ค์๊ฒ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ ๋ง์์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ์์ ๋กญ๊ฒ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค.
A
I believe that having the mindset to learn on your own is crucial. Don’t just wait for someone to reveal the truth—seek it out yourself with solid information. Tattoos are no exception: if you don’t do your research, every artist will claim, ‘I’m the best.’ Ultimately, you need enough knowledge to filter out misinformation before trusting someone with your body.
In today’s world, it’s easy for people to get swayed by popularity or flashy marketing, making it harder to find those who truly have in-depth expertise. So instead of rushing to cover your body with tattoos, take your time to develop an eye for quality—it’ll be more rewarding in the long run.
Graffiti, too, has ‘freedom’ as a key attraction. If you keep doing what you genuinely love, you’ll eventually gain recognition for the value of your work. It’s better to focus on genuine enjoyment and self-expression rather than just trying to make money, because that approach will ultimately yield more satisfying results.
ใฉใใชใใจใงใ、่ชๅใงๅญฆใผใใจใใๅงฟๅขใๆใๅคงไบใ ใจๆใใพใ。่ชฐใใ็ๅฎใๆใใฆใใใใฎใๅพ ใคใฎใงใฏใชใ、ใใกใใจๆ ๅ ฑใ้ใ、่ชๅใง็ขบ่ชใใฆใใใใจใๅฟ ่ฆใงใ。ใฟใใฅใผใฎๅ ดๅใๅใใง、ใใ่ชฟในใชใใจใฉใฎใขใผใใฃในใใ「่ชๅใไธ็ชไธๆใ」ใจ่จใใงใใใใ、ๆ็ต็ใซใฏ่ชๅใฎ่บซไฝใ้ ใใใฎใงใใใ、่ชคใฃใๆ ๅ ฑใ่ฆๆฅตใใ็ฅ่ญใๅฟ ่ฆใงใ。
็พไปฃใฏไบบๆฐใๆดพๆใชๅฎฃไผใซๆตใใใใใไธใฎไธญใง、ๆฌ็ฉใฎๅฐ้ๆงใๆใคไบบใ่ฆใคใใใฎใ้ฃใใใชใฃใฆใใใจๆใใพใ。ใใฎใใ、็ฆใฃใฆๅ จ่บซใๅใใใใจใใใฎใงใฏใชใ、ใใฃใใใจ็ฎใ่ฅใใ้็จใๆฅฝใใใงใปใใใงใใญ。
ใฐใฉใใฃใใฃใใพใ ‘่ช็ฑ’ ใๅคงใใช้ญ
ๅใชใฎใง、่ชๅใๆฌๅฝใซๅฅฝใใชใใจใใณใใณใใจ็ถใใฆใใใฐ、ใใคใไฝๅใฎไพกๅคใ่ชใใใใใจไฟกใใฆใใพใ。ใ้ใ็จผใๆๆฎตใจใใฆๆใใใใ、็ด็ฒใชๆฅฝใใฟใ่กจ็พๆฌฒๆฑใๅคงๅใซใใๆนใ、็ตๆ็ใซๆบ่ถณๅบฆใ้ซใ、ใใไฝๅใ็ใพใใใฎใงใฏใชใใงใใใใ。
๋ฌด์์ด๋ ์ค์ค๋ก ์์๊ฐ๋ ค๋ ํ๋๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ค์ํ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํด์. ๋๊ตฐ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ง์ค์ ๋์ ์๋ ค์ฃผ๊ธธ ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค๋, ๊ทผ๊ฑฐ ์๋ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ฐํ์ผ๋ก ์ง์ ์๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์๋ณด๊ณ ๊ณต๋ถํด์ผ ํ์ฃ . ํํฌ๋ ๋ง์ฐฌ๊ฐ์ง๋ผ, ์ถฉ๋ถํ ์์๋ณด์ง ์์ผ๋ฉด ์ด๋ค ์ํฐ์คํธ๋ ‘๋ด ์์
์ด ์ต๊ณ ๋ค’๋ผ๊ณ ๋งํ ํ
๋๊น์. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์๋ชป๋ ์ ๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ๋ฌ๋ผ ๋งํผ์ ์ง์์ ๊ฐ์ถ ์ํ์์ ์์ ์ ๋ชธ์ ๋งก๊ฒจ์ผ ํํ๋ฅผ ์ค์ผ ์ ์์ต๋๋ค.
์์ฆ์ ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ชฐ์ด๋ ์๊ทน์ ์ธ ํ๋ณด๊ฐ ์ฝ๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ์, ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ ๋ฌธ์ฑ์ ๊ฐ์ถ ์ฌ๋์ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋์ฑ ์ด๋ ค์์ง ์๋๋ผ๊ณ ๋ด์. ๊ทธ๋์ ํํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ ๋๋ ์กฐ๊ธํ๊ฒ ๋ชธ์ ์ฑ์ฐ๋ ค ํ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค, ์ฌ์ ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๊ณ ๋์ด ํธ์ด๋ ๊ณผ์ ์ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋ ๊ฒ ์ข๊ฒ ์ด์.
๊ทธ๋ํผํฐ ์ญ์ ‘์์ ’๊ฐ ํฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด๋ผ, ์ง์ฌ์ผ๋ก ์ข์ํ๋ ์์
์ ๊พธ์คํ ํ๋ค ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ธ์ ๊ฐ๋ ๊ทธ ๊ฐ์น๋ฅผ ์ธ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ฏฟ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ ๋ฒ๊ธฐ ์ํ ์๋จ์ผ๋ก ์ผ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋ค, ๋ณธ์ง์ ์ธ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์๊ณผ ํํ ์๊ตฌ์ ์ง์คํ ๋ ํจ์ฌ ๋ง์กฑ์ค๋ฝ๊ณ ์ข์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋์จ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํด์.