MISTER LEE

Mister Lee is a Seoul-based old-school tattooist and graffiti artist. He runs a tattoo shop called “Smile Now,” using his unique sense of style and solid skills to help promote and expand old-school tattoo culture in Korea. In this interview, we explore how he integrated his experiences and sensibilities from the graffiti scene into tattooing, as well as the philosophy that drives him to keep experimenting while maintaining his commitment to the old-school style. Through this conversation, we get a glimpse of his candid stories and deep passion for old-school tattoos.

ใƒŸใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผ・ใƒชใƒผ(Mister Leeใฏ、ใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซใ‚’ๆ‹ ็‚นใซๆดปๅ‹•ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆๅ…ผใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใ™。「ใ‚นใƒžใ‚คใƒซ·ใƒŠใ‚ฆ(Smile Now)」ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’้‹ๅ–ถใ—、็‹ฌๅ‰ต็š„ใชๆ„Ÿๆ€งใจ็ขบใ‹ใชๆŠ€่ก“ใ‚’ใ‚‚ใจใซ、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใ‚’ๅบƒใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฝนๅ‰ฒใ‚’ๆžœใŸใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™。 ใ‹ใคใฆใฎใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃ・ใ‚ทใƒผใƒณ(Scene)ใงๅŸนใฃใŸ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚„ๆ„Ÿๆ€งใ‚’、ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซ่ฝใจใ—่พผใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹。ใใ—ใฆใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’่ฒซใใชใŒใ‚‰ใ‚‚、ๆ–ฐใŸใชๆŒ‘ๆˆฆใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ๅฝผ็‹ฌ่‡ชใฎๅ“ฒๅญฆใจใฏไฝ•ใชใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹。ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ‚’้€šใ—ใฆ、ใƒŸใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผ·ใƒชใƒผใฎ็އ็›ดใชใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใจ、ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹ๆทฑใ„ๆ„›ๆƒ…ใ‚’็›ดๆŽฅไผบใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™。

๋ฏธ์Šคํ„ฐ ๋ฆฌ(Mister Lee)๋Š” ์„œ์šธ์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ์ด์ž ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ‘์Šค๋งˆ์ผ ๋‚˜์šฐ(Smile Now)’๋ผ๋Š” ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ƒต์„ ์šด์˜ ์ค‘์ธ ๊ทธ๋Š”, ๋…์ฐฝ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ ํƒ„ํƒ„ํ•œ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ฅผ ์•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ™•์‚ฐ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š”๋ฐ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์”ฌ(Scene)์—์„œ ์Œ“์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๊ณผ ๊ฐ์„ฑ์„ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋…น์˜€๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๊ณ ์ง‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ๋„๋ฅผ ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋งŒ์˜ ์ฒ ํ•™์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด, ์ง„์†”ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์™€ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊นŠ์€ ์• ์ •์„ ์ง์ ‘ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


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Q

Please introduce yourself briefly. As a tattoo artist, what philosophy do you aim for? Also, could you tell us the meaning behind your name?

่‡ชๅทฑ็ดนไป‹ใ‚’็ฐกๅ˜ใซใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใงใใพใ™ใ‹? ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจใ—ใฆ็›ฎๆŒ‡ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹็†ๅฟตใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹? ใพใŸ、ใŠๅๅ‰ใฎ็”ฑๆฅใ‚‚ๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใพใ™ใ‹?

๋ณธ์ธ ์†Œ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ์„œ ์ง€ํ–ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ฒ ํ•™์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๋ฆ„์˜ ๋œป๋„..


A

I work under the name ‘Mister Lee’ and specialize in old-school tattoos, running a shop called ‘Smile Now.’ I want to spread the appeal of old-school tattoos in Seoul and all across Korea, and to showcase the authentic old-school style. My artist name comes from my real family name; it doesn’t hold any special meaning.
็งใฏ ‘Mister Lee’ ใจใ„ใ†ๅๅ‰ใงใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ไธปใซ่กŒใฃใฆใŠใ‚Š、‘Smile Now’ ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’้‹ๅ–ถใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซใ‚’ใฏใ˜ใ‚、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎ้ญ…ๅŠ›ใ‚’ๅบƒใ‚、็œŸใฎใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ›ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™。ๆดปๅ‹•ๅใฏๆœฌๅใฎๅง“ใ‚’ๅ–ใฃใŸใ‚‚ใฎใง、็‰นใซ็‰นๅˆฅใชๆ„ๅ‘ณใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“。
์ €๋Š”๋ฏธ์Šคํ„ฐ ๋ฆฌ(Mister Lee)’๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ‘์Šค๋งˆ์ผ ๋‚˜์šฐ(Smile Now)’๋ผ๋Š” ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ƒต์„ ์šด์˜ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ์šธ์„ ๋น„๋กฏํ•ด ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋œ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”. ํ™œ๋™๋ช…์€ ์ œ ๋ณธ๋ช…์—์„œ ์„ฑ์„ ๋”ฐ์™”๊ณ , ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.


Q

The tattoo shop you run is called ‘Smile Now.’ What does that name mean?
้‹ๅ–ถใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ— ‘Smile Now’ ใซใฏใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ„ๅ‘ณใŒ่พผใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
์šด์˜ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ƒต ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ‘Smile Now’์ธ๋ฐ, ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


A
‘Smile Now’ comes from the phrase ‘Smile Now, Cry Later,’ which is frequently seen in old-school tattoos. It’s also a common motif in Mexican tattoos. I chose the part ‘Smile Now’ because I wanted a positive vibe for the shop name.
‘Smile Now’
ใฏใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใงใ‚ˆใไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ “Smile Now, Cry Later” ใจใ„ใ†ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใซ็”ฑๆฅใ—ใพใ™。ใƒกใ‚ญใ‚ทใ‚ซใƒณใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใงใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ่ฆ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใƒขใƒใƒผใƒ•ใงใ™ใŒ、ใใฎไธญใงใ‚‚ๅ‰ๅ‘ใใชใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ๆŒใค ‘Smile Now’ ใฎ้ƒจๅˆ†ใ‚’ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ๅใซใ—ใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™。
์Šค๋งˆ์ผ ๋‚˜์šฐ(Smile Now)’๋ผ๋Š” ํ‘œํ˜„์€ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์—์„œ ์ž์ฃผ ์“ฐ์ด๋Š” “Smile Now, Cry Later”๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์—์„œ ๋”ฐ์˜จ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๋ฉ•์‹œ์นธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋‚˜ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์—์„œ ์ž์ฃผ ๋“ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ . ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ค‘ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ‘Smile Now’ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์„œ ์ƒต ์ด๋ฆ„์œผ๋กœ ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q
Among the many styles of tattoos, why did you focus on old-school tattoos? Also, how did you start tattooing and how did you initially learn?
ๆ•ฐใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใฎไธญใง、ใชใœใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใซ้›†ไธญใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใฃใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹? ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใใฃใ‹ใ‘ใจ、ๅˆๆœŸใฎ้ ƒใฏใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซไฝœๆฅญใ‚’ๅญฆใฐใ‚ŒใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„。
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ ์ค‘ ์™œ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์ง‘์ค‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ณ„๊ธฐ์™€ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์—…์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


A

Around 2010, I happened to see American tattoo artists’ work and encountered old-school tattoos for the first time. It was very captivating. At the time, I was deeply involved in graffiti and was also familiar with American culture, so a friend and I bought a tattoo machine and started doing old-school tattoos on each other. Initially, our main goal wasn’t to tattoo other people but to have a lot of old-school tattoos on our own bodies. That naturally led to me tattooing professionally.

2010ๅนด้ ƒ、ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใŸใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎไฝœๅ“ใ‚’ๅถ็„ถ็›ฎใซใ—ใฆ、ๅˆใ‚ใฆใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซๅ‡บไผšใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒ、ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใงใ—ใŸ。ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฏใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใฆ、ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใซใ‚‚ๆ…ฃใ‚Œ่ฆชใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใฎใง、ๅ‹ไบบใจไธ€็ท’ใซใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใ‚’่ฒทใฃใฆใŠไบ’ใ„ใซใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ‚“ใงใ™。ๆœ€ๅˆใ‹ใ‚‰ไป–ใฎไบบใซๆ–ฝ่ก“ใ—ใŸใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ‚Š、ใพใšใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŸใกใŒใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ„ใ†ๆ€ใ„ใฎๆ–นใŒๅผทใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆ。ใใ†ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ†ใกใซ่‡ช็„ถใซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ๆœฌๆ ผ็š„ใซใ‚„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ。
2010
๋…„ ์ฏค ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜จ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ์ด๋ž€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ ‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋์„ ๋•Œ ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋А๊ผˆ์–ด์š”. ํ•œ์ฐฝ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์—๋„ ์ต์ˆ™ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ„ฐ๋ผ ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋จธ์‹ ์„ ์‚ฌ์„œ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ฒ˜์Œ์—”์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•ด ์ค˜์•ผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋ผ๋Š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ณด๋‹ค์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์— ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์ปธ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.


Q

You mentioned you did graffiti. How has that influenced your tattoo style or philosophy?
ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใจใŠใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒ、ใใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใฏใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚„็†ๅฟตใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์…จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์ž‘์—… ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ์ฒ ํ•™์— ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?


A

It definitely influenced me. When I started graffiti, I tried following popular styles, and as I explored different forms, I encountered old-school graffiti. Over time, I found the old-school vibe to be the most timeless and classic—it never got old. Likewise, when I saw old-school tattoos, I was convinced that even if my whole body was covered in them, I wouldn’t grow tired of it. I realized, ‘This is the pinnacle, a truly classic style.’ That’s why I focused on old-school tattoos, both for receiving them and giving them to others.

ๅคงใใชๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใพใ—ใŸใญ。ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸ้ ƒใฏๆต่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’ใ„ใ‚ใ„ใ‚็œŸไผผใ—ใฆใฟใพใ—ใŸใŒ、ใ„ใใคใ‚‚ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ†ใกใซใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซใ‚‚ๅ‡บไผšใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™。ๆ™‚้–“ใŒ็ตŒใคใซใคใ‚Œ、ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎ้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใ“ใใŒใšใฃใจ่ฆ‹็ถšใ‘ใฆใ‚‚้ฃฝใใš、ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ทใƒƒใ‚ฏใช้ญ…ๅŠ›ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ—ใŸ。ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใจใใ‚‚、ๅ…จ่บซใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใ‚‚้ฃฝใใชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจ็ขบไฟกใ—ใŸใ‚“ใงใ™。「ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็ฉถๆฅตใง、ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ทใƒƒใ‚ฏใชใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใชใ‚“ใ 」ใจ。ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๅ—ใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚‚、ๆ–ฝ่ก“ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚‚、ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใซ้›†ไธญใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ。
๋ถ„๋ช… ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์คฌ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜์Œ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ์œ ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€์ผ๋“ค์„ ๋ง‰ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘์—์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋„ ์ ‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚ ์ˆ˜๋ก ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ๋А๋‚Œ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋ด๋„ ์งˆ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ํด๋ž˜์‹ํ•œ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์—ญ์‹œ๋ชธ์— ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฑ„์›Œ๋„ ์งˆ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ํ™•์‹ ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š”.

๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ํŒ์ด๊ตฌ๋‚˜, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํด๋ž˜์‹ํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋ด๋„ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด๊ตฌ๋‚˜๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์„œ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋„, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋„ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q

Both graffiti and tattooing originated from ‘street culture.’ What do you see as their commonalities and differences?
ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฏใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒˆๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใ‹ใ‚‰็™บๅฑ•ใ—ใฆใใŸ้ขใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒ、ไธก่€…ใฎๅ…ฑ้€š็‚นใจ็›ธ้•็‚นใฏไฝ•ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ์™€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•ด ์˜จ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ์žฅ๋ฅด ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ๊ณผ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?


A

The biggest common factor is that both cultures developed in the United States. Graffiti mainly involves lettering, while tattooing employs various images like animals, but they both share a raw, rough-edged vibe. The difference is that graffiti is more about leaving your mark freely in public spaces without a commercial aspect, whereas tattooing is carried out between people—there’s a direct interaction in the process.
ๆœ€ๅคงใฎๅ…ฑ้€š็‚นใฏ、ใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใง็™บๅฑ•ใ—ใŸๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญ。ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏๆ–‡ๅญ—ใ‚’ใƒกใ‚คใƒณใซๆ‰ฑใ„、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฏๅ‹•็‰ฉใชใฉๆง˜ใ€…ใชใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใง่กจ็พ่ฆ็ด ใฏ็•ฐใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒ、ใ„ใšใ‚Œใ‚‚็”Ÿใ€…ใ—ใใ‚ฟใƒ•ใช้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™。็›ธ้•็‚นใจใ—ใฆใฏ、ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏๅ•†ๆฅญๆ€งใจใฏ็„ก็ธใซ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็—•่ทกใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ™ๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฏพใ—、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฏไบบใจไบบใจใฎ้–“ใง็›ดๆŽฅใ‚„ใ‚Šๅ–ใ‚ŠใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹็‚นใŒๅคงใใ„ใงใ™ใญ。」
๊ณตํ†ต์ ์€ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ „๋œ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฌ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๊ธ€์”จ๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๊ณ , ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด๋‚˜ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋“ฑ ํ‘œํ˜„ ์š”์†Œ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์น ๊ณ  ํ„ฐํ”„ํ•œ.. ๋‚ ๊ฒƒ๊ฐ™์€ ์ •์„œ๊ฐ€ ๋น„์Šทํ•ด์š”.

์ฐจ์ด์ ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋Š” ์ƒ์—…์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ฌด๊ด€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ธธ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ž๊ธฐ ํ”์ ์„ ๋‚จ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์•Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌธํ™”์— ๊ฐ€๊น์ฃ . ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Š”์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ์ž‘์—…์ด ์ด๋ค„์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์ƒํ˜ธ ๊ต๋ฅ˜๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ง์ ‘์ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.


Q

What do you think is the unique charm of old-school tattoo style? Can you tell us more about its characteristic color palette and designs?
ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใชใ‚‰ใงใฏใฎ็‹ฌ็‰นใช้ญ…ๅŠ›ใฏไฝ•ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹? ็‰นๆœ‰ใฎ่‰ฒไฝฟใ„ใ‚„ใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใซใคใ„ใฆ、ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—่ฉณใ—ใๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„。
์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ ํŠน์œ ์˜ ์ƒ‰๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋„์•ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋“ค๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.


A

The biggest appeal of old-school tattoos is the ‘powerful simplicity.’ In other styles, adding more details or intricate shading might be seen as a sign of good technique, but old-school focuses on stripping away anything unnecessary and leaving just the essentials. By subtracting instead of adding, you can still achieve a strong impact with limited lines and colors. This may look simple at first, but it actually requires a lot of thought about concepts like composition, line thickness, and overall design. You need to make sure it’s ‘clean and complete,’ which requires more skill and taste.
It also has a clear symbolic message, bold lines, and striking contrast. These elements make it easy on the eyes and help it remain timeless.

ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎๆœ€ๅคงใฎ้ญ…ๅŠ›ใฏใ‚ทใƒณใƒ—ใƒซใ•ใฎไธญใซใ‚ใ‚‹ๅŠ›ๅผทใ•ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。ไป–ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใฏ็ดฐ้ƒจใ‚’ๅŠ ใˆใŸใ‚Š、ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅ†™ๅฎŸ็š„ใซๆใ„ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใปใฉ「ไธŠๆ‰‹ใ„」ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒ、ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฏ้€†ใซไธ่ฆใช่ฆ็ด ใ‚’ๅ‰ŠใŽ่ฝใจใ—ใฆ、ๆœฌ่ณช็š„ใช้ƒจๅˆ†ใ ใ‘ใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ™ใฎใŒ็‰นๅพดใงใ™。ไฝ™่จˆใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๅŠ ใˆใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใ、้™ใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใจใ‚ซใƒฉใƒผใ ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ๅๅˆ†ใชใ‚คใƒณใƒ‘ใ‚ฏใƒˆใŒๅ‡บใ›ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ™。ไธ€่ฆ‹ใ‚ทใƒณใƒ—ใƒซใงใ™ใŒ、ใใฎใถใ‚“ๆง‹ๅ›ณใ‚„ใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใฎๅคชใ•ใชใฉ、ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใช่ฆ็ด ใ‚’ใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Š่€ƒใˆใชใ„ใจใ„ใ‘ใชใ„ใฎใง、ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚้ซ˜ๅบฆใชๆŠ€่ก“ใจใ‚ปใƒณใ‚นใŒๆฑ‚ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™。
ใพใŸ、ๆ˜Ž็ขบใชใ‚ทใƒณใƒœใƒซๆ€งใ‚„ๅŠ›ๅผทใ„ใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ、้ฎฎใ‚„ใ‹ใชใ‚ณใƒณใƒˆใƒฉใ‚นใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚、่ฆ‹ใŸ็žฌ้–“ใซๅฐ่ฑกใซๆฎ‹ใ‚Š、ๆ™‚้–“ใŒ็ตŒใฃใฆใ‚‚้ฃฝใใซใใ„ใฎใŒ็‰นๅพดใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。

์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์€์‹ฌํ”Œํ•จ ์†์—์„œ ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•จ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ๋ฅด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ž‘์€ ๋””ํ…Œ์ผ์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ’๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก์ž˜ ๊ทธ๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ์€ ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๋ถˆํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋œ์–ด๋‚ด๊ณ  ํ•ต์‹ฌ๋งŒ ๋‚จ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์ฃ . ์ด๋•Œ๋บ„์ˆ˜๋ก ๋ฉ‹์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…์ด ์ ์šฉ๋˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ, ์ œํ•œ๋œ ๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ ์ƒ‰์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ž„ํŒฉํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž์นซ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•ด ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋‚˜ ๊ตฌ๋„, ๋ผ์ธ ๋‘๊ป˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์š”์†Œ ํ•˜๋‚˜ํ•˜๋‚˜์— ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ํฐ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์„ ์จ์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ‘๊ตฐ๋”๋”๊ธฐ ์—†์ด ์™„์„ฑ๋„ ๋†’์€ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ๊ณ ๋ฏผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๊ณผ ์•ˆ๋ชฉ์ด ๋” ์š”๊ตฌ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ช…๋ฃŒํ•œ ์ƒ์ง•์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•œ ๋ผ์ธ, ๋Œ€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์–ด์šฐ๋Ÿฌ์ ธ ์‹œ๊ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ๋ˆˆ์— ์™ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๊ณ  ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋ด๋„ ์งˆ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q

How do tattoo artists usually interact with one another?

ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆๅŒๅฃซใฏๆ™ฎๆฎตใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซไบคๆตใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค ๊ฐ„์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ต๋ฅ˜๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ค„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?


A
Usually there’s something called ‘guest work,’ where artists visit another tattoo shop to work together. In different regions, you can do tattoos at local shops, meet other artists, and learn about their history. In Korea, the guest work scene between different regions isn’t as vibrant as overseas. Many artists choose to travel abroad instead. That’s why having your own shop is important—you can invite other artists to come and work with you.
ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใซใฏใ‚ฒใ‚นใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฝขใง、ไป–ใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’่จชใ‚Œใฆไธ€็ท’ใซไฝœๆฅญใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒๅคšใ„ใงใ™。ๅœฐๅŸŸใŒ็•ฐใชใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆ、ใใฎๅœŸๅœฐใฎใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใงใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰็พๅœฐใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจไบคๆตใ—、ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎใƒ’ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™。ใŸใ 、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใฏใพใ ๅœฐๅŸŸ้–“ใฎใ‚ฒใ‚นใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใŒๆตทๅค–ใปใฉๆดป็™บใงใฏใชใ、ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚ๆตทๅค–ใธ่กŒใฃใฆไบคๆตใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใŒๅคšใ„ใงใ™ใญ。ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใ、่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’ๆŒใคใ“ใจใŒๅคงไบ‹ใง、ใใ“ใซไป–ใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงไธ€็ท’ใซไฝœๆฅญใงใใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™。
๋ณดํ†ต๊ฒŒ์ŠคํŠธ ์›Œํฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ƒต์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์•„์š”. ์ง€์—ญ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒต์—์„œ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ˜„์ง€ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅ˜๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํžˆ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ .

ํ•œ๊ตญ์€ ์•„์ง ์ง€์—ญ ๊ฐ„๊ฒŒ์ŠคํŠธ ์›Œํฌ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์™ธ๋งŒํผ ํ™œ๋ฐœํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋Œ€์‹  ํ•ด์™ธ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž์‹ ๋งŒ์˜ ์ƒต์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.



Q

Compared to the past, it seems like the Korean tattoo scene has changed a lot. What’s the current atmosphere like, and what do you think has changed the most?
้ŽๅŽปใจๆฏ”ในใฆ、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใฏๅคงใใๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、็พๅœจใฎ้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใฏใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ„Ÿใ˜ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹? ใพใŸ、ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๅค‰ใ‚ใฃใŸ็‚นใฏไฝ•ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์™€ ๋น„๊ตํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ํ•œ๊ตญ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์”ฌ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ณ , ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง„ ์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?


A

The infrastructure has definitely increased compared to before, but it also grew haphazardly, causing some stagnation now. We’re in a transitional period. Among all this, only those who really do it right seem to remain. The biggest change is that there are many more tattoo shops, and people can more easily find information about tattoos than in the past.

ใ‚คใƒณใƒ•ใƒฉใฏไปฅๅ‰ใ‚ˆใ‚Š็ขบๅฎŸใซๆ•ดใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใŒ、ๅ‹ขใ„ไปปใ›ใซๅข—ใˆใŸ้ขใ‚‚ใ‚ใฃใฆ、ไปŠใฏใ‚„ใ‚„ๅœๆปžใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™。้ŽๆธกๆœŸใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ‹、ใใฎไธญใงใ‚‚ใใกใ‚“ใจใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ ใ‘ใŒๆฎ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฐ่ฑกใงใ™ใญ。ใ„ใกใฐใ‚“ๅคงใใชๅค‰ๅŒ–ใจใ„ใˆใฐ、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใฎๆ•ฐใŒๅข—ใˆ、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚„ใ™ใใชใฃใŸ็‚นใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。
ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ „๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งŽ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋™์‹œ์— ์šฐํ›„์ฃฝ์ˆœ์œผ๋กœ ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์ •์ฒด๋œ ๋А๋‚Œ๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ณผ๋„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ค‘์ด๊ณ .. ๊ทธ ์™€์ค‘์— ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งŒ ๋‚จ๋Š” ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ์ฃ . ์˜ˆ์ „๊ณผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง„ ์ ์„ ๊ผฝ์ž๋ฉด, ์ผ๋‹จ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ƒต์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋Š˜๊ณ , ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์›Œ์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ •๋„๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.


Q

I know tattoo legalization in Korea hasn’t been fully resolved yet. Have you experienced any difficulties related to this issue, or do you have any hopes regarding this matter?
้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใฏใพใ ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎๅˆๆณ•ๅŒ–ใŒๅฎŒๅ…จใซ้€ฒใ‚“ใงใ„ใชใ„ใจไผบใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、ใใ‚Œใซ้–ข้€ฃใ—ใฆไฝ•ใ‹ๅ›ฐใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚„、ๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„。
ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„์ง ํƒ€ํˆฌ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•ํ™” ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด ๊ฒช์—ˆ๋˜ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?


A

The fact that tattoos aren’t legally recognized in Korea becomes a major obstacle, not just in work but also in public perception. Many people see tattoos simply as an illegal act and don’t look into the artistic value or the safety of the process. But I believe laws can change as times and mindsets shift.

For instance, there used to be heavy regulations on the music industry, but musicians like Deulgukhwa or Sanulrim* kept pushing boundaries, and that eventually eased the regulations and established a new music culture. I think the same logic applies to tattooing. Right now, it’s labeled ‘illegal,’ so people just say, ‘It’s illegal, so no,’ but if we start questioning why it’s illegal, I believe the system will naturally evolve one day.

The most important thing is that people who love tattoo culture continue their work without stopping. As long as tattooists and clients do their part, maintaining a high standard of safety and seriousness in their art, society and its laws will change in the long run. Even though it’s not yet legal, I don’t plan to give up. I take pride in my work and will keep moving forward.

Of course, a lot of people worry about safety and hygiene, which is why tattooists themselves should rigorously maintain these standards and clearly communicate them to the public. Eventually, I believe we’ll be able to work openly within the legal framework.

*<They are representative Korean rock bands formed in the 1970s and 1980s.>
้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใฏใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใŒๅˆๆณ•ๅŒ–ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ไบ‹ๅฎŸใŒ、ไฝœๆฅญ้ขใ ใ‘ใงใชใ、ไธ–้–“ใฎ่ช่ญ˜ใซใŠใ„ใฆใ‚‚ๅคงใใชๅฃใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™。ๅคšใใฎไบบใฏ「้•ๆณ•่กŒ็‚บ」ใจใ ใ‘่ฆ‹ใฆใ—ใพใ„、ใใฎไธญใซใ‚ใ‚‹่Šธ่ก“ๆ€งใ‚„ๆ–ฝ่ก“ๅทฅ็จ‹ใฎๅฎ‰ๅ…จๆ€งใชใฉใ‚’ๆทฑใ่€ƒใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“。ใ—ใ‹ใ—、ๆณ•ๅพ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใฏๆ™‚ไปฃใ‚„ไบบใ€…ใฎ่€ƒใˆๆ–นใฎๅค‰ๅŒ–ใซไผดใฃใฆๅๅˆ†ใซๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚Šๅพ—ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‚“ใงใ™。

ใŸใจใˆใฐ้Ÿณๆฅฝๆฅญ็•Œใงใ‚‚、ๆ˜”ใฏ้žๅธธใซๅŽณใ—ใ„่ฆๅˆถใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒ、ใŸใ‚†ใพใšๆดปๅ‹•ใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใŸใƒŸใƒฅใƒผใ‚ธใ‚ทใƒฃใƒณ(ใŸใจใˆใฐใƒ‡ใƒซใ‚ฐใ‚ฏใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚„ใ‚ตใƒŒใƒซใƒชใƒ ใชใฉ)*ใŒใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใ、่ฆๅˆถใŒ็ทฉๅ’Œใ•ใ‚Œๆ–ฐใ—ใ„้Ÿณๆฅฝๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใŒๅฎš็€ใ—ใฆใ„ใใพใ—ใŸ。ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใ ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™。็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏ「้•ๆณ•」ใจใ„ใ†ใƒฌใƒƒใƒ†ใƒซใŒ่ฒผใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใง、็š†ใŒ「้•ๆณ•ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใƒ€ใƒกใ 」ใจ่จ€ใ„ใŒใกใงใ™ใŒ、「ใชใœ้•ๆณ•ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ในใใชใฎใ‹?」ใ‚’ๅ•ใ„ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ、ใ„ใคใ‹่‡ช็„ถใซๅˆถๅบฆใ‚‚ๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ—ใฆใ„ใใจไฟกใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™。

ใใฎ้Ž็จ‹ใงๆœ€ใ‚‚ๅคงๅˆ‡ใชใฎใฏ、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใจใ„ใ†ๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใ‚„่Šธ่ก“ใ‚’ๆ„›ใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใŒๆดปๅ‹•ใ‚’ๆญขใ‚ใชใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญ。ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚„ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใŒ、่‡ชๅˆ†ใŸใกใฎๅฝนๅ‰ฒใ‚’ๆžœใŸใ—、ๅฎ‰ๅ…จใง็œŸๅ‰ฃใช่Šธ่ก“ๆดปๅ‹•ใ ใจ็คบใ—็ถšใ‘ใ‚Œใฐ、ๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซ็คพไผšใ‚„ๅˆถๅบฆใ‚‚ๅค‰ใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใใฏใšใงใ™。็ง่‡ช่บซใฏ、ใพใ ๅˆๆณ•ๅŒ–ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใใฆใ‚‚่ซฆใ‚ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใฏใชใ、่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไป•ไบ‹ใซ่ช‡ใ‚Šใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆๆดปๅ‹•ใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™。

ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“、ๅฎ‰ๅ…จๆ€งใ‚„่ก›็”Ÿ้ขใ‚’ๆฐ—ใซใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๆ–นใ‚‚ๅคšใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰、ใใ†ใ—ใŸ้ƒจๅˆ†ใฏใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใŒ่‡ชใ‚‰ๅพนๅบ•ใ—ใฆ็ฎก็†·้ †ๅฎˆใ—、ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅคง่ก†ใซๅๅˆ†ใซ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—็†่งฃใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใพใ™。ใใ†ใ—ใฆใ“ใ、ใ„ใคใ‹ๆณ•็š„ใชๆž ็ต„ใฟใฎไธญใงๅ ‚ใ€…ใจๆ–ฝ่ก“ใงใใ‚‹็’ฐๅขƒใŒๆ•ดใ†ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹。
*<1970
ๅนดไปฃใจ1980ๅนดไปฃใซ็ตๆˆใ•ใ‚ŒใŸ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใ‚’ไปฃ่กจใ™ใ‚‹ใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใงใ™。>
ํƒ€ํˆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ•์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•ํ™”๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€, ์ž‘์—…ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ธ์‹์—๋„ ํฐ ์žฅ๋ฒฝ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๊ปด์š”. ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํ–‰์œ„๋ผ๊ณ  ๋‹จ์ • ์ง€์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์— ๋‹ด๊ธด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์  ๊ฐ€์น˜๋‚˜ ์ž‘์—… ๊ณผ์ •์˜ ์•ˆ์ „์„ฑ ๋“ฑ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ ค ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ . ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฒ•์€ ๊ณ ์ •๋œ ์ œ๋„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์‹œ๋Œ€์™€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์–ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ํ๋ฆ„์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ ์Œ์•…๊ณ„์—๋„ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๊ทœ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋“ค๊ตญํ™”๋‚˜ ์‚ฐ์šธ๋ฆผ* ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฎค์ง€์…˜๋“ค์ด ๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ์ฐฝ์ž‘ ํ™œ๋™์„ ์ด์–ด ๊ฐ”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ทธ ๊ทœ์ œ๋„ ์™„ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์Œ์•… ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ฆฌ ์žก์•˜์ž–์•„์š”. ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ์€ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ผฌ๋ฆฌํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ™์–ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์•ˆ ๋ผ๋ผ๊ณ ๋งŒ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, “์™œ ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ด์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€?”๋ผ๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ง€๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ œ๋„๋„ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฑด, ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฌธํ™”๋‚˜ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ„์† ์ž‘์—…์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ๋‚˜ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์ด๋“ค์ด ์ž๊ธฐ ๋ชซ์„ ๋‹คํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ, ‘์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง„์ง€ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ˆ  ํ™œ๋™์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ ๋ณด์—ฌ ์ฃผ๋ฉด, ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌํšŒ์™€ ์ œ๋„๋„ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ฒ ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์žฅ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ค„์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ , ์ œ ์ž‘์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž๋ถ€์‹ฌ์„ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋ฉด์„œ ๊ณ„์† ํ™œ๋™ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„์ด ์•ˆ์ „์„ฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์œ„์ƒ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์šฐ๋ คํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋งŒํผ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ ์ €ํžˆ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ·์ค€์ˆ˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋Œ€์ค‘์—๊ฒŒ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ธ์‹์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ•์  ํ…Œ๋‘๋ฆฌ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ๋‹น๋‹นํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์งˆ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

*<70๋…„๋Œ€์™€ 80๋…„๋Œ€์— ๊ฒฐ์„ฑ๋œ ํ•œ๊ตญ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ‘œ์ ์ธ ๋ก๋ฐด๋“œ>


Q
Do you feel that people’s perception of tattoos has improved compared to the past? If there are still misunderstandings or prejudices, what are they?

ไปฅๅ‰ใจๆฏ”ในใฆ、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹็คพไผš็š„ใช่ช่ญ˜ใฏๆ”นๅ–„ใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ใ‹? ใใ‚Œใงใ‚‚ๆฎ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹่ชค่งฃใ‚„ๅ่ฆ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰、ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
ํƒ€ํˆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ธ์‹์ด ์˜ˆ์ „๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋ผ์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์˜คํ•ด๋‚˜ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์ด ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?


A

In many Asian countries, there still seems to be an association of tattoos with organized crime or violence. In Western countries, tattoos have been around for generations—grandfathers and great-grandfathers—and there isn’t that threatening perception. But in Asia, there’s a history where gangs used tattoos for intimidation or showing off. Also, society here is relatively conservative, so people remain cautious or even hostile toward tattoos.
ใ‚ขใ‚ธใ‚ขๅœใซใฏ、ใ„ใพใ ใซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ๆšดๅŠ›ๅ›ฃใฎๅ…ฅใ‚Œๅขจใ‚„ๆšดๅŠ›็š„ใชใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใจ็ตใณใคใ‘ใ‚‹่ฆ‹ๆ–นใŒๆฎ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。ไธ€ๆ–นใงๆฌง็ฑณใงใฏ็ฅ–็ˆถใ‚„ๆ›พ็ฅ–็ˆถใฎไธ–ไปฃใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใŒไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใ ใฃใŸใŸใ‚、่„…่ฟซ็š„ใชใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“。ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ‚ขใ‚ธใ‚ขใงใฏ、ๆ˜”ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆšดๅŠ›็ต„็น”ใŒๅจๅš‡ใ‚„่ช‡็คบใฎ็›ฎ็š„ใงใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใใŸๆญดๅฒใŒใ‚ใ‚Š、็คพไผšใ‚‚ๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„ไฟๅฎˆ็š„ใชใฎใง、ไพ็„ถใจใ—ใฆๆŠตๆŠ—ๆ„Ÿใ‚’ๆŒใคไบบใŒๅคšใ„ใงใ™ใญ。
์•„์‹œ์•„ ์ชฝ์—๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„์กฐํญ ๋ฌธ์‹ ํ˜น์€ ํญ๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๋А๋‚Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š” ์‹œ์„ ์ด ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์„œ์–‘์—์„œ๋Š” ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋‚˜ ์ฆ์กฐํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ ์‹œ๋Œ€๋ถ€ํ„ฐ๋„ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ”ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์œ„ํ˜‘์ ์ธ ์ƒ์ง•์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ง“๋Š” ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์ฃ . ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์•„์‹œ์•„์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ํญ๋ ฅ ์ง‘๋‹จ์ด ์œ„ํ˜‘์ , ๊ณผ์‹œํ•˜๊ธฐ์œ„ํ•œ ์šฉ๋„๋กœ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‚ฌํšŒ๋„ ๋น„๊ต์  ๋ณด์ˆ˜์ ์ด๋ผ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€๊ฐ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q
As both a graffiti artist and a tattooist, what does that dual identity mean to your work? Do you see these identities as complementary to each other?
ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ไบŒใคใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใƒณใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏ、ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไฝœๅ“ใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใกใพใ™ใ‹? ใŠไบ’ใ„ใซ่ฃœๅฎŒใ—ๅˆใ†้–ขไฟ‚ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ์ด์ž ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์€ ๋ณธ์ธ ์ž‘์—…์— ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋‚˜์š”? ๋‘ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์ด ์„œ๋กœ ๋ณด์™„ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?


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Though both graffiti and tattooing come from a similar ‘street culture’ background, I personally choose to keep these two identities somewhat separate. Even if I’ve done graffiti, it doesn’t mean I incorporate those exact styles or images directly into my tattoo work. I believe each medium—tattoo and graffiti—has its own characteristics and artistic flow.

That doesn’t mean the two cultures are unrelated. Historically, there have been plenty of artists who were active in both scenes. For instance, legendary New York graffiti artist SEEN and tattoo master Bob Roberts show us how graffiti and tattoo can intersect and influence each other. Both emphasize ‘freedom of expression.’

However, I don’t subscribe to the idea, ‘Since I did graffiti, I must apply graffiti techniques to tattoos.’ I respect the distinct identity of each genre, and I feel that my approach as a graffiti artist differs from my approach as a tattooist.

Both cultures inspire me greatly, but how I blend that inspiration into my work is entirely my choice. On one hand, I keep them independent, but on the other, I know they can affect my mindset and artistic attitude. They share a common root in ‘street culture’ but grow as different branches within me.

ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฏใ„ใšใ‚Œใ‚‚ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒˆใ‚ซใƒซใƒใƒฃใƒผใซ็”ฑๆฅใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、็งใฏใ‚ใˆใฆใ“ใฎไบŒใคใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใƒณใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ใ‚ใ‚‹็จ‹ๅบฆๅˆ†ใ‘ใฆ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใจใ„ใฃใฆ、ใใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚„ใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซใใฎใพใพๆดปใ‹ใ™ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“。ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซใฏใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎ็‰นๆ€งใ‚„ๆตใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Š、ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซใฏใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใชใ‚Šใฎ็‰นๅพดใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™。

ใจใฏใ„ใˆ、ไธก่€…ใŒใพใฃใŸใ็„ก้–ขไฟ‚ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“。ๆญดๅฒ็š„ใซใ‚‚、ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผๅŒๆ–นใงๆดป่บใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใฏๅคšใใ„ใพใ™。ใŸใจใˆใฐ、ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใƒจใƒผใ‚ฏใฎไผ่ชฌ็š„ใชใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆSEENใ‚„、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผ็•ŒใฎๅทจๅŒ ใƒœใƒ–·ใƒญใƒใƒผใƒ„ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ、ไธกๆ–นใฎใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใŒไบคใ‚ใ‚Šๅˆใ†ไพ‹ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™。ใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚่‡ชๅทฑ่กจ็พใฎ่‡ช็”ฑใ‚’้‡่ฆ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๅ…ฑ้€š็‚นใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ—ใญ。

ใŸใ 「ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซใ‚‚ใใฎๆŠ€ๆณ•ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๅ…ฅใ‚Œใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ‘ใชใ„」ใจใ„ใ†่€ƒใˆๆ–นใฏใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“。ๅ„ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒณใƒซใŒๆŒใคๅ›บๆœ‰ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใƒณใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ๅคงไบ‹ใซใ—ใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ—、็ง่‡ช่บซ、ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจใ—ใฆใฎๆ–นๅ‘ๆ€งใจ、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจใ—ใฆใฎๆ–นๅ‘ๆ€งใŒใใ‚Œใžใ‚Œ็•ฐใชใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™。

ไบŒใคใฎใ‚ซใƒซใƒใƒฃใƒผใฏใ„ใšใ‚Œใ‚‚ๅคงใใชใ‚คใƒณใ‚นใƒ”ใƒฌใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณๆบใงใ™ใŒ、ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซไฝœๅ“ใซๅๆ˜ ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ๆฌก็ฌฌใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。็‰‡ๆ–นใงใฏ็‹ฌ็ซ‹ๆ€งใ‚’ไฟใกใคใค、ใ‚‚ใ†็‰‡ๆ–นใงใฏใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจใ—ใฆใฎๅงฟๅ‹ขใ‚„่€ƒใˆๆ–นใซๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹、ใจใ„ใฃใŸใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹。ๅŒใ˜ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒˆใ‚ซใƒซใƒใƒฃใƒผใจใ„ใ†ๆ นใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰、ใใ‚Œใžใ‚Œๅˆฅใฎๆžใจใ—ใฆไผธใณใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใงใ™ใญ。
๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ์™€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Š” ๋น„์Šทํ•œ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ ๋น„๋กฏ๋˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‘ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์„ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ, ๊ทธ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์— ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋…น์—ฌ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Š” ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Œ€๋กœ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ฐ์ž์˜ ํŠน์„ฑ๊ณผ ํ๋ฆ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ๋‘ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ์™€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณตํ†ต ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ™œ๋™ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์•„์š”. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋‰ด์š•์˜ ์ „์„ค์ ์ธ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ์”ฌ(SEEN)’์ด๋‚˜ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๊ณ„์˜ ๊ฑฐ์žฅ๋ฐฅ ๋กœ๋ฒ„์ธ (Bob Roberts)’ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ธ๋ฌผ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ๋‘ ์‹ (Scene) ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ต๋ฅ˜์™€ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์กด์žฌํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋‚˜ ์ž‘์—… ๋ฐฉ์‹ ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„์ž๊ธฐ ํ‘œํ˜„์˜ ์ž์œ ๋ฅผ ์ค‘์š”์‹œํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.

๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ €๋Š”๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์—๋„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ๊ธฐ๋ฒ•์„ ์จ์•ผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”. ๊ฐ ์žฅ๋ฅด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์„ ์กด์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ์ € ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ์„œ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ๊ณผ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ์„œ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.

๋‘ ๋ฌธํ™” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํฐ ์˜๊ฐ์˜ ์›์ฒœ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์—…์— ๋…น์ผ์ง€๋Š” ์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €์˜ ์„ ํƒ๊ณผ ํ•ด์„์— ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ํ•œ ํŽธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋…๋ฆฝ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•œ ํŽธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋กœ์„œ์˜ ํƒœ๋„๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹์—๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. “๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋˜, ์ œ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๋ป—์–ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋А๋‚Œ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ• ๊นŒ์š”.


Q
What is the biggest challenge you face running your own tattoo shop, and conversely, when do you feel the most rewarded?
ๅ€‹ไบบใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’้‹ๅ–ถใ™ใ‚‹ไธŠใง、ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๅคงใใชๅ›ฐ้›ฃใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹? ้€†ใซ、ไธ€็•ชใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŒใ„ใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใฉใ‚“ใช็žฌ้–“ใงใ™ใ‹?
๊ฐœ์ธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ƒต์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฒช๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€๊ณผ, ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ณด๋žŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€ ์–ธ์ œ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?


A
The most challenging aspect is that tattooing is still illegal in Korea, so we can’t accept walk-in clients as freely as in the U.S. It’s not like a hair salon where anyone can casually drop by. We have to run on a reservation-only system.

The moment I feel the most rewarded is when foreign artists I admire visit Korea and work as guests in my shop. That really makes me happy.
ใ„ใกใฐใ‚“้›ฃใ—ใ„ใฎใฏ、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใฏใพใ ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใŒๅˆๆณ•ใงใฏใชใ„ใŸใ‚、ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่‡ช็”ฑใซใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚คใƒณใฎใŠๅฎขใ•ใ‚“ใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญ。็พŽๅฎนๅฎคใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ชฐใงใ‚‚ๆฐ—่ปฝใซ็ซ‹ใกๅฏ„ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“。ใใฎใŸใ‚ๅฎŒๅ…จไบˆ็ด„ๅˆถใง้‹ๅ–ถใ›ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™。

ไธ€ๆ–นใงๆœ€ใ‚‚ใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŒใ„ใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ、็งใŒใƒชใ‚นใƒšใ‚ฏใƒˆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆตทๅค–ใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใŒ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใซๆฅใฆ、ใ‚ฒใ‚นใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚’็งใฎใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใงใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจใใงใ™。ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใญ。
์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„์ง ํƒ€ํˆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์›Œํฌ์ธ์„ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๋ฏธ์šฉ์‹ค ๊ฐ€๋“ฏ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ฐพ์•„์˜ค๋Š” ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์˜ˆ์•ฝ์ œ๋กœ๋งŒ ์šด์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.

๋ณด๋žŒ์„ ๋А๋‚„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กด๊ฒฝํ•˜๋Š” ์™ธ๊ตญ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์™”์„ ๋•Œ, ์ œ ์ƒต์—์„œ ๊ฒŒ์ŠคํŠธ ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๋•Œ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์˜์ฃ .


Q
I heard your tattoo shop was located in the Hongdae area but recently moved to the outskirts of Seoul. Why did you decide to relocate?
ไปฅๅ‰ใฏใƒ›ใƒณใƒ‡(ๅผ˜ๅคง)ๅœฐๅŒบใซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’ๆง‹ใˆใฆใ„ใŸใใ†ใงใ™ใŒ、ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซ้ƒŠๅค–ใธ็งป่ปขใ—ใŸใจใฎใ“ใจ。็งป่ปขใฎ็†็”ฑใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ƒต์ด ํ™๋Œ€๋ผ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ทผ ์„œ์šธ ์™ธ๊ณฝ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ฒผ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€?


A

Because I run on an appointment-only basis, there was no real need to stay in Hongdae. Hongdae used to have an ‘artistic vibe’ and I lived there for a long time, so it was natural to open a shop there. But over time, it became more of a tourist area, and since I don’t take walk-ins anyway, being in Hongdae wasn’t necessary anymore.

I decided to move to a more spacious and comfortable location on the outskirts of Seoul. Clients don’t mind making a reservation and coming out here, and the improved environment is definitely a plus. Most importantly, I can customize the space to match my work style and how I greet customers.

ๅฎŒๅ…จไบˆ็ด„ๅˆถใง้‹ๅ–ถใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใง、ใƒ›ใƒณใƒ‡ใซใ„ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆๆ€งใ‚’ใ‚ใพใ‚Šๆ„Ÿใ˜ใชใใชใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™。ใƒ›ใƒณใƒ‡ใฏใ‹ใคใฆใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎ่ก—ใจใ„ใ†้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š、็ง่‡ช่บซใ‚‚้•ทใไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใฎใง่‡ช็„ถใซใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’ๆง‹ใˆใพใ—ใŸใŒ、ๆ™‚้–“ใŒ็ตŒใคใซใคใ‚Œ่ฆณๅ…‰ๅœฐใฎๆ€งๆ ผใŒๅผทใใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใฆ。ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚คใƒณใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใชใ„็งใซใจใฃใฆใฏ、ใ‚ใ–ใ‚ใ–ใใ“ใซ็•™ใพใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใŒใชใใชใฃใฆใใŸใ‚“ใงใ™。

ใใ‚Œใงใ‚ฝใ‚ฆใƒซ้ƒŠๅค–ใฎ、ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅบƒใๅฟซ้ฉใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ็งป่ปขใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ—ใพใ—ใŸ。ไบˆ็ด„ๅˆถใชใฎใง、ใŠๅฎขๆง˜ใ‚‚ใ“ใ“ใพใง่ถณใ‚’้‹ใถใ“ใจใ‚’ๆฐ—ใซใ•ใ‚Œใชใ„ใงใ™ใ—、ไฝœๆฅญ็’ฐๅขƒใ‚‚ใ‹ใชใ‚Šๅ‘ไธŠใ—ใพใ—ใŸ。ไฝ•ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚、่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚„ๆŽฅๅฎขใซๅˆใ‚ใ›ใฆ็ฉบ้–“ใ‚’ไฝœใ‚Œใ‚‹็‚นใŒๅคงใใชใƒกใƒชใƒƒใƒˆใงใ™ใญ。
์ €๋Š” ์˜ˆ์•ฝ์ œ๋กœ๋งŒ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ, ๊ผญ ํ™๋Œ€์— ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ํ•„์š”์„ฑ์„ ๋ชป ๋А๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”. ์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š” ํ™๋Œ€๊ฐ€์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋А๋‚Œ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ €๋„ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์‚ด์•˜์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜์ฃ . ๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์œ„ ์ง€์ธ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์†๋‹˜๋“ค๋„ ํ™๋Œ€ ์ชฝ์— ๋งŽ์ด ์˜ค๋‹ˆ ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ ์š”.

๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ด์ œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ํ๋ฅด๋ฉด์„œ ํ™๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๊ด€๊ด‘์ง€ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ•ํ•ด์กŒ๊ณ , ์ €๋„ ์›Œํฌ์ธ ์†๋‹˜์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋‹ˆ ๊ตณ์ด ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์„ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์–ด์š”. ๋Œ€์‹  ์ข€ ๋” ๋„“๊ณ  ์พŒ์ ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ์ฐพ์•„์„œ ์„œ์šธ ์™ธ๊ณฝ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ธด ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์˜ˆ์•ฝ์ œ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์†๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ์ฐพ์•„์˜ค๋Š” ๋ฐ ํฐ ๋ถˆํŽธ์€ ์—†๊ณ , ์ž‘์—… ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ด์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ์ œ ์ž‘์—… ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ์†๋‹˜ ์‘๋Œ€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋งž์ถฐ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๊พธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ํฐ ์žฅ์ ์ด์ฃ .


Q
Where do you usually get inspiration for your old-school designs? Do you directly reference traditional patterns or American traditional tattoo designs?

ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏ、ๆ™ฎๆฎตใฉใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚คใƒณใ‚นใƒ”ใƒฌใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ๅพ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹? ไผ็ตฑ็š„ใชๆ–‡ๆง˜ใ‚„ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใƒณใƒˆใƒฉใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ทใƒงใƒŠใƒซใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใ‚’็›ดๆŽฅๅ‚็…งใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ๋””์ž์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜๊ฐ์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์–ด๋””์„œ ์–ป์œผ์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์˜› ์ „ํ†ต ๋ฌธ์–‘์ด๋‚˜ ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นธ ์ „ํ†ต ํƒ€ํˆฌ์˜ ๋„์•ˆ ๋“ฑ์—์„œ ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐจ์šฉํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?


A
Old-school is literally the ‘American Traditional’ style. Most of the time, we remake images from that era or slightly customize them.
ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฏๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใƒณใƒˆใƒฉใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ทใƒงใƒŠใƒซใชใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใชใฎใง、ใใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใฎใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ใƒชใƒกใ‚คใ‚ฏใ—ใŸใ‚Š、ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ‚ซใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒžใ‚คใ‚บใ—ใฆไฝฟใ†ใ“ใจใŒใปใจใ‚“ใฉใงใ™ใญ。
์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ์€ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นธ ํŠธ๋ ˆ๋””์…”๋„ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด์—์š”. ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ˆ ์ž‘์—…์ž๋“ค์ด ๋‚จ๊ธด ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฆฌ๋ฉ”์ดํฌํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ์ปค์Šคํ…€ํ•ด์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—์š”.


Q
Do you still keep in touch with the graffiti scene? Are you continuing graffiti work alongside your tattoo work?

็พๅœจใ‚‚ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใจใฎใคใชใŒใ‚Šใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹? ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎไป•ไบ‹ใจไธฆ่กŒใ—ใฆใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃๆดปๅ‹•ใ‚‚็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์‹ (Scene)๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์ž‘์—… ์™ธ์— ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


A
I don’t do it as frequently as before, but when friends from abroad come to visit, we sometimes paint together. I also check out graffiti exhibitions in Korea. The direct interaction is less frequent, but I maintain connections on a friendly basis.
ไปฅๅ‰ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ้ ป็นใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ、ๆตทๅค–ใฎๅ‹ไบบใŒๆฅใŸใจใใซใฏไธ€็ท’ใซใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ๆใใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ—、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝๅ†…ใง้–‹ใ‹ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎๅฑ•็คบไผšใซ่ถณใ‚’้‹ใถใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™。็›ดๆŽฅ็š„ใชไบคๆตใฏๆธ›ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒ、่ฆชไบคใฏ็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใญ。

์˜ˆ์ „์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ž์ฃผ ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ด ์˜ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์—ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์ „์‹œ์— ๋“ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด์š”. ์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ ๊ต๋ฅ˜๋Š” ์ ์–ด์กŒ์ง€๋งŒ, ์นœ๋ถ„์„ ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ •๋„๋กœ ๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q

You stick to a traditional style like old-school, but do you also try to incorporate newly released inks, machines, or other technologies?
ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชไผ็ตฑ็š„ใชใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’่ฒซใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไธ€ๆ–นใง、ๆ–ฐใ—ใๅ‡บใฆใใ‚‹ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚„ใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใชใฉใฎๆŠ€่ก“ใ‚‚ๅ–ใ‚Šๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๊ณ ์ง‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„, ์ƒˆ๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜จ ์ž‰ํฌ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ, ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์ ‘๋ชฉํ•˜๋ ค ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?


A
These days, there are a lot of new technologies in the tattoo scene, and various new inks appear on the market. However, I’ve been using a coil machine for a long time. I’m used to its distinctive weight, vibration, and the way the needle hits the skin, so personally, I haven’t found anything that feels ‘better’ than that. The newer gear definitely offers convenience, but the coil machine, which I’ve used for years, actually feels the most comfortable to me.

Old-school tattoos emphasize traditional lines, shading, and color. A coil machine’s heavier line quality and the classic ‘pepper shading’ effect are crucial to achieving that authentic look. Unlike pen-style or rotary machines, coil machines can produce a certain ruggedness in each needle mark, and I believe that sets old-school tattoos apart. The top old-school artists around the world still insist on using coil machines, seeing it as a vital aspect of preserving the style’s essence. That’s why I stick to the classic machines. However, when it comes to inks, I do experiment with new products if they claim better color or durability.

In terms of design, I usually rely on traditional old-school motifs, but occasionally I introduce new ideas or combine them with other styles to reinterpret them in my own way. The key is to keep the classic charm of old-school but also allow for modern adaptations. Ultimately, I aim to balance tradition with new technology, all while maintaining the style and flair I believe in.
ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใงใฏ、ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒ†ใ‚ฏใƒŽใƒญใ‚ธใƒผใ‚„ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฏใŒๆฌกใ€…ใจ็™ปๅ ดใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใ—ใ‹ใ—、็ง่‡ช่บซใฏ้•ทใ„้–“ใ‚ณใ‚คใƒซใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใใฆ、ใใฎ็‹ฌ็‰นใฎ้‡ใ•ใ‚„ๆŒฏๅ‹•、้‡ใŒ็šฎ่†šใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ๆ„Ÿ่งฆใซๆ…ฃใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใง、「ใ“ใ‚ŒไปฅไธŠใซใ„ใ„」ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ไปฃๆ›ฟๅ“ใ‚’ใพใ ่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“。ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใฏ็ขบใ‹ใซไพฟๅˆฉใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、้•ทๅนดไฝฟใ„่พผใ‚“ใงใใŸใ‚ณใ‚คใƒซใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใŒ็งใซใฏไธ€็•ชใ—ใฃใใ‚Šใใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™。

ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใงใฏ、ไผ็ตฑ็š„ใชใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใ‚„ใ‚ทใ‚งใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐ、่‰ฒไฝฟใ„ใŒ้‡่ฆ่ฆ–ใ•ใ‚Œใพใ™。ใ‚ณใ‚คใƒซใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใชใ‚‰ใงใฏใฎ、ใฉใฃใ—ใ‚Šใจใ—ใŸใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใจใƒšใƒƒใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚ทใ‚งใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ทใ‚ซใƒซใชๆฟƒๆทก่กจ็พใŒ、ใ“ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’ๆˆ็ซ‹ใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ไธŠใงๆฌ ใ‹ใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“。ใƒšใƒณๅž‹ใ‚„ใƒญใƒผใ‚ฟใƒชใƒผใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ—ใฎใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅ‡ไธ€ใซใชใ‚Šใ™ใŽใš、้‡ใฎ็—•ใซใ‚ฟใƒ•ใชๅ‘ณใ‚ใ„ใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ、ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚‰ใ—ใ•ใ‚’ๅผ•ใ็ซ‹ใฆใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。ไธ–็•Œไธญใฎใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ๆฅตใ‚ใŸใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใŸใกใฏ、ใ‚ณใ‚คใƒซใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใ‚’ไฝฟใ„็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ไบบใŒๅคšใ„ใงใ™ใญ。ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘้‡่ฆใช่ฆ็ด ใ ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™。ใงใ™ใฎใง、ใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏๅพ“ๆฅใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ไฝฟใ„็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ๆดพใงใ™ใญ。

ไธ€ๆ–นใงใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฏใฏ、ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚ซใƒฉใƒผใ‚„็™บ่‰ฒใฎ่‰ฏใ•ใชใฉใ‚’ใ†ใŸใ†่ฃฝๅ“ใŒๅ‡บใฆใใŸใ‚‰่ฉฆใ™ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™。ใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณ้ขใงใฏ、ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎไผ็ตฑ็š„ใชใƒขใƒใƒผใƒ•ใ‚’ไฝฟใ„ใชใŒใ‚‰、ๆ™‚ใ€…ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Š、ไป–ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆททใœใฆ่‡ชๅˆ†ใชใ‚Šใซๅ†่งฃ้‡ˆใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™。ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ทใƒƒใ‚ฏใช้ญ…ๅŠ›ใ‚’ใƒ™ใƒผใ‚นใซใ—ใคใค、็พไปฃ็š„ใช่ฆ็ด ใจใ†ใพใ่ชฟๅ’Œใ•ใ›ใŸใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™。่ฆใ™ใ‚‹ใซ、ไผ็ตฑใจๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๆŠ€่ก“ใฎ้•ทๆ‰€ใ‚’ใ†ใพใๆดปใ‹ใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰、่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅคงไบ‹ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใจๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใ‚’ไฟใคใฎใŒๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใช็›ฎๆจ™ใงใ™ใญ。
์‚ฌ์‹ค ์š”์ฆ˜์€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์”ฌ์—์„œ๋„ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‹ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ„์† ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ณ , ์ž‰ํฌ ์—ญ์‹œ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ € ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์ฝ”์ผ ๋จธ์‹ ์„ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์จ ์™”๊ณ , ๊ทธ ํŠน์œ ์˜ ๋ฌด๊ฒŒ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์ง„๋™, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋Š˜์ด ํ”ผ๋ถ€์— ๊ฝ‚ํžˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ๊ฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์†์— ์ต์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค๋” ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋‚„ ๋งŒํ•œ ๋Œ€์ฒดํ’ˆ์„ ์•„์ง ๋ชป ์ฐพ์•˜์–ด์š”. ์ƒˆ๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜จ ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค์ด ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํŽธ๋ฆฌ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ˜ ๊ฑด ๋งž๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €๋Š” ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ฝ”์ผ ๋จธ์‹ ๋งŒ ์จ ์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๊ทธ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ฐ•์ ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.

์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋Š” ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ ์‰์ด๋”ฉ, ์ƒ‰๊ฐ์„ ์‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๋ฐ, ์ฝ”์ผ ๋จธ์‹ ์ด ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฌต์งํ•œ ์„ ๊ณผ ํŽ˜ํผ ์‰์ด๋”ฉ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋ช…์•”์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ฒ•์—์„œ ์ฝ”์ผ ๋จธ์‹  ๋งŒ์ด ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋Š˜ ์ž๊ตญ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ํŒฌ๋จธ์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ท ์ผํ•œ ํŒจํ„ด์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํ„ฐํ”„ํ•จ์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”, ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ง›์„ ๋‚ด๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์ž๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ฝ”์ผ ๋จธ์‹  ๋งŒ์„ ๊ณ ์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ฐจ๋ณ„์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋จธ์‹ ๋งŒํผ์€ ์˜ˆ์ „๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์จ์˜ค๋˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ณ ์ง‘ํ•˜๋Š” ํŽธ์ด์ฃ . ๋Œ€์‹  ์ž‰ํฌ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ๋Š” ์ข€ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ํŽธ์ด์—์š”. ๋ฐœ์ƒ‰์ด๋‚˜ ์ง€์†๋ ฅ์ด ์ข‹์•„์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ฉด ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์”ฉ ์จ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ .. ๋””์ž์ธ ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ๋„์•ˆ๋“ค์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ฐ€๋” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์‚ด์ง ๋ณ€ํ˜•ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฏธํ•ด์„œ ์ œ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์žฌํ•ด์„ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด์š”. ์•„๋ฌด๋ž˜๋„ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํด๋ž˜์‹ํ•œ ๋งค๋ ฅ์„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์— ๋‘๋˜, ์š”์ฆ˜ ์‹œ๋Œ€์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์กฐํ™”๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€์ฃผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์—ด์–ด ๋‘๋Š” ํŽธ์ด์ฃ . ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์ž‘์—…์—์„œ ์ „ํ†ต์„ฑ๊ณผ ์ƒˆ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋ชจ๋‘์˜ ์žฅ์ ์„ ์‚ด๋ฆฌ๋˜, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€์ผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q

Do you have any advice or essential tips for people who aspire to become tattoo artists?
ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’็›ฎๆŒ‡ใ™ไบบใ€…ใซๅฏพใ—ใฆ、ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใ‚„็ตถๅฏพใซๅค–ใ›ใชใ„ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฟˆ๊พธ๋Š” ์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด๋‚˜, ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋†“์น˜๋ฉด ์•ˆ ๋  ํ•ต์‹ฌ ํŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”?


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It’s more about having a clear direction than a specific ‘tip.’ Don’t rush to show off results too quickly. Instead, take your time to build skill, study thoroughly, and find your own style. If you’re too eager to display your work before you’re ready, you might end up with shallow results.
ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ「ใƒ†ใ‚ฏใƒ‹ใƒƒใ‚ฏ」ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏ、ใพใšๆ˜Ž็ขบใชๆ–นๅ‘ๆ€งใ‚’ๆŒใคใ“ใจใŒๅคงๅˆ‡ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。ๆ—ฉใๆˆๆžœใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ›ใ‚ˆใ†ใจ็„ฆใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ、ใ˜ใฃใใ‚ŠใจๅฎŸๅŠ›ใ‚’็ฃจใ„ใฆ็ ”็ฉถใ—、่‡ชๅˆ†ใชใ‚‰ใงใฏใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใฆใปใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใญ。ๆบ–ๅ‚™ใŒๆ•ดใ†ๅ‰ใซไบบใซ่ฆ‹ใ›ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ใจ、ใฉใ†ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ๆต…ใ„ๆฎต้šŽใง็ต‚ใ‚ใฃใฆใ—ใพใ†ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒ้ซ˜ใ„ใงใ™。
์ผ๋‹จ์€ ๋ญ ํŒ๋ผ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ผ๋‹จ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ฑ์„ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์žก๊ณ  ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฌผ์„ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ์กฐ๊ธ‰ํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”, ์ฐจ๊ทผ์ฐจ๊ทผ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ์Œ“๊ณ  ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ž๊ธฐ๋งŒ์˜ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ์ฐพ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ฃ . ์กฐ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด, ๊นŠ์ด ์—†์ด ๋๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.


Q
Have you ever collaborated with or interacted with overseas tattoo artists? If so, what differences did you notice, and what did you learn from them?
ๆตทๅค–ใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจใ‚ณใƒฉใƒœใ‚„ไบคๆตใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹? ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ、ใฉใ‚“ใช้•ใ„ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š、ใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฉใ‚“ใชๅญฆใณใ‚’ๅพ—ใŸใ‹ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„。
ํ•ด์™ธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค๊ณผ๋„ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฝœ๋ผ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜์‹  ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฐฐ์›€์„ ๋А๋ผ์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


A
The biggest difference I felt while interacting with overseas tattoo artists is the sheer amount of time and energy they devote to their craft. Many of them tattoo all day and then go home to paint large canvases or sketch new designs. Their entire day revolves around tattoo art. They say that’s what’s necessary to stay competitive. As a result, their skills improve quickly, and they earn respect and recognition from others in the industry.

In Korea, the culture hasn’t been around as long, so the environment and work ethic tend to be a bit more relaxed. Of course, not everyone is like that, but it’s less common to see people spending every single day drawing or researching. Sometimes they rely on quick digital sketches, or spend their free time on other social activities rather than honing their art. From these overseas experiences, I’ve learned that consistent practice and dedication truly shape one’s skill. Tattooing is a hand-crafted art form, so the more time and effort you invest, the deeper your artistic expression becomes.
ๆตทๅค–ใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจไบคๆตใ—ใฆๆ„Ÿใ˜ใŸๅคงใใช้•ใ„ใฏ、ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒไฝœๅ“ๅˆถไฝœใจ็ทด็ฟ’ใซๆณจใŽ่พผใ‚€ๆ™‚้–“ใจใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใฎ้‡ใงใ™ใญ。ๅคšใใฎๆตทๅค–ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใฏ、ไธ€ๆ—ฅใซไฝ•ไปถใ‚‚ใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ใ“ใชใ—、ๅฎถใซๅธฐใฃใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚‚ๅคงใใชใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒใ‚นใซใƒšใ‚คใƒณใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Š、ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใ‚’ใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒใ—ใŸใ‚Šใจ、ไธ€ๆ—ฅไธญใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒˆใซๆฒก้ ญใ™ใ‚‹็”Ÿๆดปใ‚’้€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใใ†ใ—ใชใ„ใจ็ซถไบ‰ใซๅ‹ใฆใชใ„ใจๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‚‚่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ—、ๅฎŸ้š›ใใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆ้›†ไธญใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใใ‚นใ‚ญใƒซใŒๆ—ฉใไธŠ้”ใ—、ๆฅญ็•Œๅ†…ใงใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒšใ‚ฏใƒˆใ‚„่ฉ•ไพกใ‚‚้ซ˜ใพใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™。

ไธ€ๆ–นใง、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใฏใพใ ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใŒๆตธ้€ใ—ๅง‹ใ‚ใฆ้–“ใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Š、ไฝœๆฅญใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚„้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใŒใ‚„ใ‚„็ทฉใ‚„ใ‹ใช้ขใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™。ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ‚นใƒˆใ‚คใƒƒใ‚ฏใซๆ‰“ใก่พผใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、ๆฏŽๆ—ฅๆฌ ใ‹ใ•ใš็ตตใ‚’ๆใ็ถšใ‘ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใฎๅ‰ฒๅˆใฏใพใ ไฝŽใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใˆใพใ™。ใจใใซใฏiPadใ‚„ใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซใƒ„ใƒผใƒซใงใ‚ตใ‚ฏใƒƒใจใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒใ—ใฆๆธˆใพใ›ใŸใ‚Š、ไฝœๆฅญๅค–ใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ใŠ้…’ใ‚„ไป–ใฎๆดปๅ‹•ใซไฝฟใ†ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚นใ‚‚ๅคšใ„ใงใ™ใญ。ใ“ใ†ใ„ใฃใŸ้•ใ„ใ‚’่‚Œใงๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆ、「ใ‚„ใฏใ‚Šๅœฐ้“ใช็ทด็ฟ’ใจใ‚ณใƒ„ใ‚ณใƒ„ใจใ—ใŸๅŠชๅŠ›ใ“ใใŒๅฎŸๅŠ›ใ‚’็ฃจใ่ฟ‘้“ใชใ‚“ใ 」ใจๅ†็ขบ่ชใ—ใพใ—ใŸ。ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฏๆ‰‹ไฝœๆฅญใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒˆใชใฎใง、ๆ™‚้–“ใจๅŠดๅŠ›ใ‚’ใ‹ใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใ‹ใ‘ใ‚‹ใปใฉ、่กจ็พๅŠ›ใŒๆทฑใพใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๅฝ“็„ถใฎ็œŸ็†ใ‚’ๆ”นใ‚ใฆๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ—ใŸ。
ํ•ด์™ธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋А๊ผˆ๋˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์€์ž‘์—…๊ณผ ์—ฐ์Šต์— ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€์˜€์–ด์š”.
ํ•ด์™ธ ์ž‘๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์—๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฑด์˜ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์†Œํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ง‘์— ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ๋„ ํฐ ์ข…์ด์— ํŽ˜์ธํŒ…์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์Šค์ผ€์น˜๋ถ์— ๋””์ž์ธ์„ ๊ตฌ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ๋“ฑ, ์˜จ์ข…์ผ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ๊ด€๋ จ ์ž‘์—…์— ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ํ”ํžˆ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋“ค์€์ด ์ •๋„๋กœ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณค ํ•ด์š”. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ๋ฏธ์ณค๋‹ค์‹ถ์„ ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•˜๊ธฐ์—, ๋น ๋ฅธ ์†๋„๋กœ ์‹ค๋ ฅ๋„ ๋Š˜๊ณ , ์—…๊ณ„ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค์˜ ์กด์ค‘๊ณผ ๋ช…์„ฑ๋„ ์–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ํ•œ๊ตญ์€ ์•„์ง ํƒ€ํˆฌ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ฆฌ ์žก์€ ์ง€ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ , ์ž‘์—… ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋‚˜ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ข€ ๋” ๋А์Šจํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๊ปด์ ธ์š”. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ชจ๋“  ํ•œ๊ตญ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด์™ธ ์ž‘๊ฐ€๋“ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งค์ผ๋งค์ผ ๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ํ™•๊ณ ํžˆ ์ž๋ฆฌ ์žก์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์•„์ดํŒจ๋“œ๋‚˜ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ํˆด๋กœ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์Šค์ผ€์น˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ณ , ์ž‘์—… ์™ธ์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ด๋‚˜ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์— ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ˆ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ™œ๋™์— ์“ฐ๋Š” ์ผ๋„ ํ”ํ•˜์ฃ .

์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šด ์ ์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ๊พธ์ค€ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ์—ฐ์Šต์ด ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํ•œ ์ง„๋ฆฌ์˜ˆ์š”. ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์†์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ด๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ, ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์Ÿ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‹œ๋„๋ฅผ ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก ํ‘œํ˜„๋ ฅ์ด ๊นŠ์–ด์ง€๊ณ , ์ž‘์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ๋„ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋งˆ๋ จ์ด์ฃ . ํ•ด์™ธ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘์—…ํ•ด ๋ณด๋ฉด, ํ•˜๋ฃจํ•˜๋ฃจ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‚ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์ € ์—ญ์‹œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํƒœ๋„์—์„œ ํฐ ์ž๊ทน์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ , ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์—ฐ์Šต ๋ฃจํ‹ด์ด๋‚˜ ์ž‘์—…๋Ÿ‰์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.



Q

You’ve openly expressed critical views on the Korean tattoo scene. Specifically, what aspects lead you to such criticism?
้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใฎใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใซๅฏพใ—ใฆ็އ็›ดใชๆ‰นๅˆค็š„ๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚’่ฟฐในใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใใพใ—ใŸใŒ、ๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช็‚นใซๅฏพใ—ใฆๆ‰นๅˆค็š„ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
๊ทธ๊ฐ„ ํ•œ๊ตญ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์”ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋น„ํŒ์„ ์Šค์Šค๋Ÿผ ์—†์ด ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ด์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋น„ํŒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


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I believe that any scene needs constructive criticism to correct what’s wrong. I’m careful not to turn criticism into mere fault-finding, so I speak based on what I’ve directly experienced and observed. Having interacted with various artists, including those abroad, I’ve seen people who devote almost their entire lives to tattooing—tirelessly practicing, painting, and accumulating 10, 20, or even 30 years of experience. Naturally, in such an environment, their skills and techniques grow.

In Korea, I feel there aren’t many people who have built a deep, longstanding culture of immersion in tattoo art. Of course, there are dedicated artists, but it seems relatively rare to find individuals who truly love the culture and strive to lead it forward. There’s a tendency to opt for faster, more convenient methods rather than investing huge amounts of time and setting strict personal standards. As a result, you can see a significant gap in skill and experience compared to some overseas scenes.

Still, over time, Korea is gradually becoming more specialized, and talented artists are emerging. But it seems to remain a niche, limited to a smaller circle. I’m not criticizing for the sake of criticizing—I see it more as a realistic piece of advice: ‘If we want to deepen and evolve this culture, we need more passion and sustained effort.’
ใฉใ‚“ใชใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใงใ‚ใ‚Œ、้–“้•ใฃใŸ้ƒจๅˆ†ใ‚’ๆญฃใ™ใŸใ‚ใซใฏๅปบ่จญ็š„ใชๆ‰นๅˆคใŒๅฟ…่ฆใ ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใŸใ ใฎๆ‚ชๅฃใซใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ๆฐ—ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใฆใฏใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、็งใŒใ“ใ‚Œใพใง็›ดๆŽฅ่ฆ‹ใฆใใŸ็พๅฎŸใ‚’็އ็›ดใซ่ชžใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใชใ‚“ใงใ™。ๆตทๅค–ใ‚’ๅซใ‚ใ„ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใจไบคๆตใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ、ไบบ็”Ÿใฎใปใจใ‚“ใฉใ‚’ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใซๆงใ’ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชไบบใŸใกใซใ‚‚ๅ‡บไผšใ„ใพใ™。ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไผ‘ใ‚€ใ“ใจใชใ็ทด็ฟ’ใ‚„ๅˆถไฝœใซๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใ‚“ใง、10ๅนด、20ๅนด、30ๅนดใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒชใ‚ขใ‚’็ฉใฟไธŠใ’ใชใŒใ‚‰ๆŠ€่ก“ใ‚’ไผธใฐใ—ใฆใ„ใใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ。

ไธ€ๆ–น、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใงใฏใพใ ใใ“ใพใงๆทฑใ้•ทๅนดใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆๆ‰“ใก่พผใ‚“ใงใใŸไบบใฏๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„ๅฐ‘ใชใ„ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™。ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ไธ€็”Ÿๆ‡ธๅ‘ฝๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใ‚€ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、「ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใ‚’ๆทฑใๆฅฝใ—ใฟ、็ฉๆฅต็š„ใซ็‰ฝๅผ•ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†」ใจใ„ใ†ไบบใฏใพใ ๅฐ‘ๆ•ฐใ ใจใ„ใ†ๅฐ่ฑกใงใ™。่†จๅคงใชๆ™‚้–“ใจๅŽณใ—ใ„ๅŸบๆบ–ใ‚’่‡ชใ‚‰ใซ่ชฒใ™ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚、ๆ‰‹ๆ—ฉใ็ฐกๅ˜ใชๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’้ธใณใŒใกใชๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ‹。ใใฎใ›ใ„ใงๆตทๅค–ใจๆฏ”ในใŸใจใใซๆŠ€่ก“ใ‚„็ตŒ้จ“ใฎๅทฎใŒใ‹ใชใ‚Šๅคงใใ„ๅ ด้ขใ‚‚่ฆ‹ๅ—ใ‘ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™。

ใจใฏใ„ใˆ、ๆ™‚ใŒ็ตŒใคใซใคใ‚Œใฆ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใฎใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใ‚‚ๅฐ‘ใ—ใšใคๅฐ‚้–€ๆ€งใ‚’ๅข—ใ—、ๅ„ชใ‚ŒใŸไฝœๅ“ใ‚’ไฝœใ‚‹ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚‚ๅข—ใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใŸใ 、็งใฎ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹้™ใ‚Šใงใฏใพใ ใพใ ้™ใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸไธ€้ƒจใฎไบบใŸใกใฎไธญใซ็•™ใพใฃใฆใ„ใฆ、ใ‚ทใƒผใƒณๅ…จไฝ“ใซๆตธ้€ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ„ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใงใ™ใญ。ๅ˜ใซๆ‰นๅˆคใ—ใŸใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ、ใ“ใฎๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใ‚’ใ‚‚ใฃใจๆทฑใ‚、็™บๅฑ•ใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใซใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎๆƒ…็†ฑใจ็ถ™็ถš็š„ใชๅŠชๅŠ›ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใชใ‚“ใ 、ใจใ„ใ†็พๅฎŸ็š„ใชใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใ ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใ‚Œใฐๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™。
์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์”ฌ์ด๋“  ๋น„ํŒ์ด ์—†์ด๋Š” ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„ํŒ์ด ๋น„๋‚œ์ด ๋˜์–ด์„  ์•ˆ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋А๋‚€ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ํ•ด์™ธ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ์™€ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ, ํ•˜๋ฃจ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ž‘์—…๊ณผ ์—ฐ์Šต์— ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ž์ฃผ ๋ดค๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง‘์— ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ๋„ ๋˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด์„œ 10๋…„, 20๋…„, 30๋…„์˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ์Œ“์•„ ์˜ค๋กœ์ง€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ ์คฌ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๊ณผ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์ด ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋ฐ–์— ์—†์–ด์š”.

๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„์ง ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ฅผ ๊นŠ์ด ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•ด ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ์€ ํŽธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋А๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ๊ณ„์‹œ์ง€๋งŒ, '์ง„์งœ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ฅผ ๊นŠ์ด ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ , ์ฃผ๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Œ์–ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์ด ๋“œ๋ฌผ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์—„๊ฒฉํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ์„ธ์›Œ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”, ๋น„๊ต์  ๋น ๋ฅด๊ณ  ํŽธํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ฐพ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์•„์ง์€ ๋” ๋งŽ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด์š”. ์ด๋ ‡๋‹ค ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ํ•ด์™ธ์™€ ๋น„๊ตํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์‹ค๋ ฅ ์ฐจ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์˜ ๊นŠ์ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด์š”.

๋ฌผ๋ก  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ•œ๊ตญ๋„ ์ ์  ๋” ์ „๋ฌธํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค๋„ ์ƒ๊ฒจ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋А๋ผ๊ธฐ์— ์•„์ง์€ ๊ทธ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋‚˜ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ '์ผ๋ถ€ ์†Œ์ˆ˜'์— ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅด๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๊ณ , ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์”ฌ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ํผ์ง„ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฌด์กฐ๊ฑด ๋น„ํŒ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ , '์ด ๋ฌธํ™”๋ฅผ ๊นŠ์ด ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€, ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค๋ฉด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์—ด์ •๊ณผ ๊พธ์ค€ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค'๋ผ๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ธ ์กฐ์–ธ์— ๊ฐ€๊น๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q
You primarily work in the old-school style, but do you have any plans to explore other styles or new forms of art, like painting or graphic art?

็พๅœจใฏไธปใซใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใซๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใพใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、ใƒšใ‚คใƒณใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚„ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚ขใƒผใƒˆใชใฉ、ไป–ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚„ๆ–ฐใŸใช่กจ็พๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’่ฉฆใ™ไบˆๅฎšใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
ํ˜„์žฌ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ํ•˜์‹œ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์˜ˆ์ˆ  ํ˜•ํƒœ(์˜ˆ: ํŽ˜์ธํŒ…, ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ์•„ํŠธ)์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?


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I do try out various things, like painting on canvas or combining tattoo and graffiti elements in my artwork whenever I have time. For example, I sometimes paint Eastern motifs on Korean mulberry paper using black ink or brush techniques, then incorporate elements from American-style tattoos, such as Black Panther heads or leopard patterns. Because I’m Korean, I’d like to naturally express my Eastern identity while blending it with the bold lines and colors of old-school tattoos.

I’ve also experimented with placing paper on live trees or rocks to capture different textures. It’s like ‘engraving,’ using charcoal or pastels to create unpredictable shapes. Then I overlay imagery reminiscent of Eastern painting with American panther motifs. I enjoy exploring where East meets West, or where graffiti meets tattoo, in various media.
็งใฎๅ ดๅˆ、ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒใ‚นใซๆใ„ใฆใฟใŸใ‚Š、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใจใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎ่ฆ็ด ใ‚’ใƒŸใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใ—ใŸไฝœๅ“ใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—ใšใค่ฉฆใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใŸใจใˆใฐ、้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใฎไผ็ตฑ็š„ใช็ด™(ใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚ฝใƒณใ‚ธ)ใซๅขจใ‚„็ญ†ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆๆฑๆด‹็š„ใชใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ๆใ、ใใ“ใซใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใƒณใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎ่ฆ็ด 、ไพ‹ใˆใฐใƒ–ใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒ‘ใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใฎ้ ญใ‚„ใƒ’ใƒงใ‚ฆๆŸ„ใชใฉใ‚’็ต„ใฟๅˆใ‚ใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™。็งใฏ้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝไบบใชใฎใง、่‡ช็„ถใซๆปฒใฟๅ‡บใ‚‹ๆฑๆด‹ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใƒณใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจ、ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผ็‰นๆœ‰ใฎๅŠ›ๅผทใ„ใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใ‚„ใ‚ซใƒฉใƒผใ‚’ใฉใ†่ชฟๅ’Œใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’ๅฎŸ้จ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™。

ใพใŸ、็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆœจใ‚„ๅฒฉใฎไธŠใซ็ด™ใ‚’่ฒผใฃใฆ่ณชๆ„Ÿใฎ้•ใ„ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š่พผใ‚€ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ‰‹ๆณ•ใ‚‚่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใพใ—ใŸ。ๆœจ็‚ญใ‚„ใƒ‘ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒซใงๆ“ฆใ‚Šใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆใ„ใฆใ„ใใจ、ไบˆๆธฌไธ่ƒฝใชๅฝขใŒๆตฎใ‹ใณไธŠใŒใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ。ใใ“ใซๆฑๆด‹็”ปใฎๆŠ€ๆณ•ใจใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใฎใƒ‘ใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใ‚’ๅˆใ‚ใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใง、ๆง˜ใ€…ใชใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใงๆฑๆด‹ใจ่ฅฟๆด‹、ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใŒๅ‡บไผšใ†ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๆŽขใ‚‹ใฎใŒใ™ใ”ใ้ข็™ฝใ„ใงใ™。
์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋‚  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์บ”๋ฒ„์Šค ์ž‘์—…์ด๋‚˜ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์™€ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๋”ํ•œ ํŽ˜์ธํŒ…์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ํ™”์„ ์ง€์— ๊ฒ€์ • ์ž‰ํฌ๋‚˜ ๋จน๋ฌผ ๋“ฑ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด ๋™์–‘์ ์ธ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ค ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์œ„์— ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์˜ ์š”์†Œ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ฉด ๋ธ”๋ž™ํŽœ์„œ์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ํ‘œ๋ฒ”๋ฌด๋Šฌ๋“ฑ์„ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ•ด ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐ์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™์–‘์ ์ธ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์„ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ด๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์— ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ํŠน์œ ์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•œ ์ƒ‰๊ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ผ์ธ๊ฐ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์–ด์šฐ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ์‹คํ—˜ํ•ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .

๋˜, ์‚ด์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”์œ„์— ์ข…์ด๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ ค ๋‚˜๋ฌด ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๊ฐ์„ ์‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๋„๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ผ์ข…์˜๊ฐ์ธํ•˜๋“ฏ์ด ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ธ๋ฐ, ๋ชฉํƒ„์ด๋‚˜ ํŒŒ์Šคํ…”๋กœ ๋ฌธ์ง€๋ฅด๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ข…์ด ์œ„๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ธก ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋˜ ํ˜•์ƒ์ด ์˜ฌ๋ผ์™€ ๋™์–‘ํ™” ๊ธฐ๋ฒ•์˜ ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นธ ํŽœ์„œ์˜ ๋ฌธ์–‘์„ ๋‹ด๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋งค์ฒด์—์„œ ๋™์–‘๊ณผ ์„œ์–‘, ํ˜น์€ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ์™€ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง€์ ์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํฐ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์˜ˆ์š”


Q
What do you think is the defining feature or ‘signature’ of Mister Lee’s work? In terms of flash designs, what do you value most?
ใ‚ใชใŸ่‡ช่บซใฎไฝœๅ“ใซใŠใ‘ใ‚‹ ‘Mister Leeใชใ‚‰ใงใฏใฎ็‰นๅพดใ‚„ใ‚ทใ‚ฐใƒใƒใƒฃใƒผใจใฏไฝ•ใ ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹? ใƒ•ใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใซใŠใ„ใฆ、็‰นใซๅคงๅˆ‡ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„。
๋ฏธ์Šคํ„ฐ ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ์˜ ์‹œ๊ทธ๋‹ˆ์ฒ˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ํŠน์ง•์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ๋„์•ˆ(ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‰ฌ)์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.


A
I still think I’m in the process of developing my own signature style. I want to dig deeper into the essence and history of old-school tattoos, gradually infusing my own personality.

่‡ชๅˆ†็‹ฌ่‡ชใฎใ‚ทใ‚ฐใƒใƒใƒฃใƒผใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใฏ、ใพใ ๆจก็ดขไธญใ ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใฎๆœฌ่ณชใ‚„ๆญดๅฒใ‚’ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๆทฑใๆŽ˜ใ‚Šไธ‹ใ’ใชใŒใ‚‰、ๅฐ‘ใ—ใšใค่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅ€‹ๆ€งใ‚’็น”ใ‚Šไบคใœใฆใ„ใใŸใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™。
์•„์ง๋„ ์ €๋งŒ์˜ ์‹œ๊ทธ๋‹ˆ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ๋” ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์ธ ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊นŠ์ด ํŒŒํ—ค์น˜๋ฉด์„œ, ์ฐจ์ธฐ์ฐจ์ธฐ ์ œ ๊ฐœ์„ฑ์„ ๋…น์—ฌ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


Q

Some people see tattoos merely as decoration or fashion. From your perspective as a tattooist, what do you think about the artistic value of tattoos?
ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ๅ˜ใชใ‚‹่ฃ…้ฃพใ‚„ใƒ•ใ‚กใƒƒใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใจใ—ใฆ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎ็ซ‹ๅ ดใ‹ใ‚‰、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใŒๆŒใค่Šธ่ก“็š„ไพกๅ€คใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใŠ่€ƒใˆใงใ™ใ‹?
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ์žฅ์‹์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํŒจ์…˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํƒ€ํˆฌ์ด์ŠคํŠธ ์ž…์žฅ์—์„œ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์  ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?


A

If the piece has enough ‘quality,’ I believe it inherently carries artistic value. If someone gets it just for decoration, it might remain purely decorative. But a tattoo imbued with a high level of craftsmanship and artistic intent certainly holds meaning as a work of art.
ไฝœๅ“ใจใ—ใฆใฎใ‚ฏใ‚ชใƒชใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ、ใใ‚Œ่‡ชไฝ“ใซ่Šธ่ก“็š„ไพกๅ€คใฏ็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™。ๅ˜ใชใ‚‹่ฃ…้ฃพ็›ฎ็š„ใงๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏ、ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“่ฃ…้ฃพใฎ็ฏ„ๅ›ฒใซ็•™ใพใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ、้ซ˜ๅบฆใชๆŠ€่ก“ใจ่Šธ่ก“็š„ๆ„ๅ›ณใ‚’่พผใ‚ใŸใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ、ใ‚ขใƒผใƒˆไฝœๅ“ใจใ—ใฆใฎๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ๅๅˆ†ใซๆŒใคใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。
์ž‘์—…๋ฌผ์˜ํ€„๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ์ž์ฒด๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธด๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด์š”. ๋‹จ์ˆœ ์žฅ์‹์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ์žฅ์‹์— ๊ทธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์™„์„ฑ๋„์™€ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์  ์˜๋„๋ฅผ ๋‹ด์•„๋‚ธ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ผ๋ฉด ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์˜ˆ์ˆ  ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ .


Q
What do you think you’ll be doing in 10 years? Are you considering retirement or perhaps expanding into other forms of art or business?
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ๅนดๅพŒ、ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅงฟใงๆดปๅ‹•ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹? ๅผ•้€€ใฎ่€ƒใˆใ‚„、ไป–ใฎๅฝขๆ…‹ใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒˆใ‚„ใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใธใฎๅฑ•้–‹ใชใฉ、ไฝ•ใ‹ใŠ่€ƒใˆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
์•ž์œผ๋กœ 10๋…„ ๋’ค, ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชจ์Šต์œผ๋กœ ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‚˜์š”? ํ˜น์‹œ ์€ํ‡ด ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ˆ /๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋„ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?


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I haven’t really thought about retiring anytime soon. I’ll probably still be focusing on tattooing in 10 years, just like now, occasionally doing graffiti and art projects alongside it. I’ve built a lot of experience and connections over the years, so it feels natural to continue with the old-school tattoo scene and the graffiti scene I love. Of course, if the opportunity arises, I might explore other art fields or businesses, but for now, I want to delve deeper into what I’m already doing and gradually refine my style.
ไปŠใฎใจใ“ใ‚ๅผ•้€€ใซใคใ„ใฆใฏ็‰นใซ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“。ใŸใถใ‚“10ๅนดๅพŒใ‚‚ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚’ไธญๅฟƒใซๆดปๅ‹•ใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰、ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚„ใ‚ขใƒผใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚‚ๆ™‚ใ€…ไธฆ่กŒใ—ใฆใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。้•ทๅนดๅŸนใฃใฆใใŸๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใ‚„ใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใง、่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅฅฝใใชใ‚ชใƒผใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚„ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใใฎใŒ่‡ช็„ถใชๆตใ‚Œใ ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™。ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใƒใƒฃใƒณใ‚นใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐไป–ใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒˆใ‚ธใƒฃใƒณใƒซใ‚„ใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใซๆŒ‘ๆˆฆใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚้ข็™ฝใ„ใงใ™ใŒ、ใพใšใฏไปŠใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๆŽ˜ใ‚Šไธ‹ใ’ใฆ、ๅพใ€…ใซ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’ๆˆ็†Ÿใ•ใ›ใฆใ„ใใŸใ„ใงใ™ใญ。
๋‹น์žฅ ์€ํ‡ด๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ ์ ์€ ์—†๊ณ , ์•„๋งˆ 10๋…„ ๋’ค์—๋„ ํƒ€ํˆฌ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ๋„ ๊ฐ€๋” ํ•˜๊ณ , ์•„ํŠธ ์ž‘์—…๋„ ๋ณ‘ํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ์š”. ์•„๋ฌด๋ž˜๋„ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์Œ“์•„ ์˜จ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜ฌ๋“œ์Šค์ฟจ ํƒ€ํˆฌ์™€ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์‹ ์„ ๊ณ„์† ์ด์–ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด์š”. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ์ˆ  ์žฅ๋ฅด๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ์—… ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒ ์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ข€ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํŒŒ๊ณ ๋“ค๊ณ , ์ฐจ์ธฐ ์ œ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


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Lastly, as we wrap up the interview, is there anything you’d like to say to the tattoo scene, graffiti scene, or the general public?
ๆœ€ๅพŒใซ、ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ‚’็ท ใ‚ใใใ‚‹ใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆ、ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใ‚„ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚ทใƒผใƒณ、ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏไธ€่ˆฌใฎๆ–นใ€…ใซๅ‘ใ‘ใฆไผใˆใŸใ„ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ、่‡ช็”ฑใซใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ„ใŸใ—ใพใ™。
์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์น˜๋ฉฐ, ํƒ€ํˆฌ์”ฌ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ์”ฌ, ํ˜น์€ ๋Œ€์ค‘์—๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ง์”€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


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I believe that having the mindset to learn on your own is crucial. Don’t just wait for someone to reveal the truth—seek it out yourself with solid information. Tattoos are no exception: if you don’t do your research, every artist will claim, ‘I’m the best.’ Ultimately, you need enough knowledge to filter out misinformation before trusting someone with your body.

In today’s world, it’s easy for people to get swayed by popularity or flashy marketing, making it harder to find those who truly have in-depth expertise. So instead of rushing to cover your body with tattoos, take your time to develop an eye for quality—it’ll be more rewarding in the long run.

Graffiti, too, has ‘freedom’ as a key attraction. If you keep doing what you genuinely love, you’ll eventually gain recognition for the value of your work. It’s better to focus on genuine enjoyment and self-expression rather than just trying to make money, because that approach will ultimately yield more satisfying results.

ใฉใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใงใ‚‚、่‡ชๅˆ†ใงๅญฆใผใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ๅงฟๅ‹ขใŒๆœ€ใ‚‚ๅคงไบ‹ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。่ชฐใ‹ใŒ็œŸๅฎŸใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ๅพ…ใคใฎใงใฏใชใ、ใใกใ‚“ใจๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’้›†ใ‚、่‡ชๅˆ†ใง็ขบ่ชใ—ใฆใ„ใใ“ใจใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™。ใ‚ฟใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใฎๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใง、ใ‚ˆใ่ชฟในใชใ„ใจใฉใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚‚「่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒไธ€็•ชไธŠๆ‰‹ใ„」ใจ่จ€ใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ—、ๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ่บซไฝ“ใ‚’้ ใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰、่ชคใฃใŸๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’่ฆ‹ๆฅตใ‚ใ‚‹็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™。

็พไปฃใฏไบบๆฐ—ใ‚„ๆดพๆ‰‹ใชๅฎฃไผใซๆตใ•ใ‚Œใ‚„ใ™ใ„ไธ–ใฎไธญใง、ๆœฌ็‰ฉใฎๅฐ‚้–€ๆ€งใ‚’ๆŒใคไบบใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใŒ้›ฃใ—ใใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™。ใใฎใŸใ‚、็„ฆใฃใฆๅ…จ่บซใ‚’ๅŸ‹ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ、ใ‚†ใฃใใ‚Šใจ็›ฎใ‚’่‚ฅใ‚„ใ™้Ž็จ‹ใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใปใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใญ。

ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚‚ใพใŸ่‡ช็”ฑใŒๅคงใใช้ญ…ๅŠ›ใชใฎใง、่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅฅฝใใชใ“ใจใ‚’ใ‚ณใƒ„ใ‚ณใƒ„ใจ็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚Œใฐ、ใ„ใคใ‹ไฝœๅ“ใฎไพกๅ€คใŒ่ชใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจไฟกใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™。ใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’็จผใๆ‰‹ๆฎตใจใ—ใฆๆ‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ‚Š、็ด”็ฒ‹ใชๆฅฝใ—ใฟใ‚„่กจ็พๆฌฒๆฑ‚ใ‚’ๅคงๅˆ‡ใซใ—ใŸๆ–นใŒ、็ตๆžœ็š„ใซๆบ€่ถณๅบฆใ‚‚้ซ˜ใ、ใ„ใ„ไฝœๅ“ใŒ็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹。
๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์•Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ ค๋Š” ํƒœ๋„๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ง„์‹ค์„ ๋Œ€์‹  ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๊ธธ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”, ๊ทผ๊ฑฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ์ง์ ‘ ์ž๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ฃ . ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ, ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ ๋‚ด ์ž‘์—…์ด ์ตœ๊ณ ๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ผ ๋งŒํผ์˜ ์ง€์‹์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ˜ ์ƒํƒœ์—์„œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์„ ๋งก๊ฒจ์•ผ ํ›„ํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ค„์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์š”์ฆ˜์€ ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ชฐ์ด๋‚˜ ์ž๊ทน์ ์ธ ํ™๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์‰ฝ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ „๋ฌธ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋”์šฑ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง„ ์‹œ๋Œ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํƒ€ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ชธ์„ ์ฑ„์šฐ๋ ค ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค, ์—ฌ์œ ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๋ˆˆ์ด ํŠธ์ด๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ผํ‹ฐ ์—ญ์‹œ์ž์œ ๊ฐ€ ํฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ด๋ผ, ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์„ ๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ ํ•˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ์ธ์ •๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ผ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค, ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์ธ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€๊ณผ ํ‘œํ˜„ ์š•๊ตฌ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•  ๋•Œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.